I do have a iPad I have the ipad1 . I don't have any kind of overlay on it. I been using IOS devices for about 3 years or so since the iPhone 3gs came out. Hmm, that is about 2and half years. I will say the iPad having the larger screen has a small learning curve from the iPhone because of the screen size and it has like columns dividing the screen and sometimes tables depending on what you are doing. I suggest a iPhone or iPod touch to start with. But would wait till the new Iphone5 came out or the new iPod touch came out which should be in the next month or two. These are much smaller and easier to navigate. I use the iPad from time to time to keep in practice with it but mostly my wife use it as she is a seeing person and really likes the iPad. So do my seeing grand children . But I myself prefer the smaller devices. They do everything the iPad does and much easier to navigate. I don't have a iPod touch but when the new ones come out I will be looking at them. Now the iPad unless you get the one with cell data you will not have a built in GPS and will have to use a BT GPS receiver. Yes there are brail displays that work with all IOS devices. I myself don't use brail. HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:33 PM To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Using an ipad Hi to all Today, I went to an apple store and held an ipad in my hands for the first time. Amazing, it's much thinner than I thought. The guy there activated voice over. However I found it rather difficult to do things with all this touching and wiping. Most of all locating some things on the plain glass screen. And some funny things happened like the ipod suddenly playing music ... Maybe I was shy or it was just an unlucky start for me. but anyway, I'm wondering if you guys are really using an ipad or ipod touch for your daily life? I read somewhere about a company which makes some tactile overlays for blind people. Are you using something like that or are you really just getting fine by figure out and memorizing all the spots on the glass screen? I'm actually looking for a portable organizer. So I thought an ipad might be an interesting solution since you could look at your appointmens sort of like reading them in braille ... Do you guys organize your things this way? And is there a certain braille display you would reccommend to use with these devices? Kind regards Ben ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx