Oh you had said in a previous message that you did not understand my reply because the message I was replying to did not display below my reply. It does in some messages I reply to and not in others, why is that?************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx