Hi, Here is the post where I first heard of the dealership. From one of the ecospace consious community sites. Read it some time ago (I think it opened in September) and then started doing some research. It was one of those syncronicity things because one of the Student Congress debate topics deals with a Bill to 'outlaw' gas-powered vehicles. Some interesting articles in Mechanical Engineering and then about some company in Germany who has been using fuel cells for eight military organizations to allow for their people to stay away from the homebase longer, etc. So, we started looking even more into where the technology was for regular people. Anyway--was curious. Best, Marlena in Missouri who was thinking of Eric Dean's post about his work world in Phoenix-sounds like a nice case study for all the leadership programs in various universities around the country/world. Has anyone else noticed how many there are? Sometimes I think it is the anthropology and psychology of 'today' (and probably more lucrative <g>) But, what also interested me was thinking of the people who moved forward in the face of the 'no'. Is this something they do often or only when they have a good idea? And what and when does the culture of a company change to 'fit' the new idea/movement? John M's response to Eric's musing about emotions/working through them to the other side was also interesting. Since that is one of my life lessons (I do believe-theory of the month, remember?), I often find myself in situations whereby I have to explain to people how to do that. Related to Eric/John/Irene posts was the thought of how often I tell people to 'step back from the emotion. Examine it. Let's figure it out before you react to it." It's a similar exercise to what John was talking about, I think. "What happens to your body when you are experiencing it? Where is the feeling coming from? Is it real or was it a reaction to something someone else said? Let's define it's origin. Let's figure out what it is telling you--what is the belief being touched. Let's pull it out and look at it-for beliefs are different from emotions." and then we talk about how to 'soften' the belief (if necessary) or emotion (if necessary). One of my periodic card-playing games (okay, not for a while...) is a psychiatrist and we have often talked about this stuff, too. He says that there are so many more emotions that most people know--that alot of people think they are feeling 'anger' when it is really something completelyl different. Maybe that is when I started having people go deeper into defining exactly *which* emotion it was that was being felt. and on and on go the thoughts... Electric Cars and Coffee (Editorial) Yesterday I dropped into the grand opening of Eco-motion, a self-labeled “earth friendly” car dealership in the city of Portland. The new business sells Zap and Myers electric cars, trucks, motorcycles, and scooters. They also sell used hybrids and other EPA certified “Smartway” vehicles, or vehicles designated environmentally superior. Having seen the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?", it is great to see these battery-powered vehicles coming back on the scene. The original electric car customers were very satisfied but the oil companies bribed the car companies to take them back and crush them! This car dealership is certainly not an ordinary one; the showroom shares space with a coffee shop called Hip Drip Café, selling coffee, tea, juice, and Higher Taste (vegan and vegetarian) burritos. There are lounge chairs and tables to sit around at. So I imagine one would sit around eating and drinking, admiring the funny looking little electric vehicles, talking about the future of transportation. As vehicles go, electric ones conserve energy and reduce pollution because they are tremendously more efficient than vehicles with oil engines. They produce no smelly exhaust fumes, (I speak from a biker’s firsthand experience of secondhand fumes)! They can produce minimal pollution with renewable energy options, but either way create much less overall pollution than oil-run vehicles. They are also much cheaper on the road; the mileage from $150-200 on gasoline would require only $10-20 in electricity. The little commuter car goes for less than $10,000, reaching speeds of 40-50 mph, while other electric cars are out there ready for the highway hitting 70 mph. There is even an electric sportscar being produced able to hit speeds of 160 mph. The opening party at this dealership provided free food and corn bioplastic cups and plates, as each garbage bin posed a sign “Compost your corn plastics”. It is hip and profitable for businesses to be eco-conscious, and there is nothing wrong with that. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:48 pm Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Unable to deliver your message Marlena wrote >> Has anyone in Portland gone to the Ecomotion dealership, yet? They >> are >> selling electric cars--and I keep thinking the ZAK sedan for >> $10,000 >> looks interesting and reasonable for a teenage boy next >> year...(and 40 >> miles per hour--it's for the city... I believe it is the ZAP sedan, and from what I can discover it is a highly theoretical vehicle, which will cost around $30,000 if it gets made. David wrote > To me the most > important thing a teen needs is not fuel economy; fuel > economy is in > conflict with their primary need, which is lots of heavy > metal all > around. And air bags. As many as you can afford. And four-inch layers of Kevlar. Even though one might drive one of these little bugs only in the city, city streets are also used by daunting rides such as Ford F150 pickups, SUVs of all sorts, and cement mixing trucks the size of dormitories. Robert Paul, leaving Montana ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com