Actually, I was ticked off at an unending discussion on another Listserv on the meaning of Truth and Justice -- on and on. I didn't dare post that poem on that listserv for fear I'd get caught up in it. There is an Arab saying something along the lines of peace being a day's camel ride away meaning something that is never where you are - something that is never going to be found. And the my camel is smarter than your camel was intended to smack of the contentiousness I had grown tired of. In short, you are right. And I'll clean it up one of these days. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:29 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Tuesday Poem I like this poem, Lawrence. I really like the images. It reminds me for some reason of Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower" If you'll forgive my presumptuousness, I'd ditch the title, much too grandiose, -- my first reaction was Oh Christ, here we go again with the Truth and Justice bit -- and the last line has a scent of tendentiousness about it. I think a little imagistic stiffening would help there. Leave 'em guessing. Thanks for sharing it. Yes, I hate people who make suggestions, too. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm To: Lit-Ideas <mailto:Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Tuesday Poem Truth and Justice The truth you ask, and justice? They are a day's camel ride away. Cinch your burnoose about you. The wind will whip the sand. The dunes will bleed in falls. The way isn't clear, but My camel knows the way. There is an oasis a day's Ride from here. You'll see The shimmer and the palms Bouncing in and out, Even issuing from the desert Edicts from all that Eden portended. And beyond that a castle, Ruined by countless wars, Stones from nowhere near Anywhere we've been Were used. It is a day's Ride my camel knows. Does yours?