[lit-ideas] Re: Translation Problem
- From: Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:03:43 -0500
I overheard my 18 yr old (one of my daughters is a little academician --
this one would rather paint, weld, and live outside) say "Me and Jimmy went
to the movies..." I corrected her when she was off the phone and she said,
it doesn't matter, it's just the same, like saying the glass is blue or the
blue glass". I attempted to explain to her the difference between the way
English modifies nouns (we use modifiers both before and after the noun) and
the way we use pronouns -- asked her if she would say "Me went to a movie".
She interrupted me and said with a heavy sigh, "MOM, nobody talks that way
anymore except old people."
Yes, I taught my daughters ALOT of grammar during their growing up years.
My older daughter uses English very accurately and well. THIS one....well,
it just didn't take because she's not a word person and it simply doesn't
matter to her. I suspect she represents the vast number of teenagers out
there. Apparently the school system didn't even address grammar.
I feel like Ish in Earth Abides...
Julie Krueger
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> This journalese is actually understandable enough (especially if we take
> the second "up" as a mistaken repetition repetition). Compare the following
> from a recent poster to the list:-
> "To be sure, not forgiven being self not christian at all." To be sure,
> that is many steps closer to gibberish, yet passed without comment. Perhaps
> it's some misguided politeness or simply because it is easier for all
> concerned, but why no comment? Maybees it's pity that motivates persons
> not to ask for the quoted words to be translated into English, or their
> belief the request would be an exercise in futility? Grammar, surely, begins
> at home.
>
> Dnl
> London
>
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> *From:* Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 September 2011, 0:47
> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: Translation Problem
>
> Perhaps someone might start with translating it into English...
>
> Julie Krueger
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> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, David Ritchie <ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> For those of you who are stuck for a Sunday evening task, why not try
> translating this sentence into a different language. It's from the BBC
> website's description of a rugby match. "Good sides take disappointment on
> the chin and they front up up next week."
>
> David Ritchie,
> preparing for the morrow in
> Portland, Oregon
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