Walter O. has (or had) a Volvo. I was just quoting his dialogue with Mikhail Gearison (in the archives): GEARY: Do you believe in autonomous human beings? OLSHEWSKY: As a character disposition, yes. GEARY: You go over my head. I am trained as a musician. ------ >would wager my Volvo that I have never in my entire life ever stated or >believed that "a human being is a character disposition." But then, aren't you saying, "I believe in _autonomous human beings_ where _autonomy_ is understood _only_ as a 'character disposition' of the aforementioned human being. SPERANZA: So you are saying that some human beings are autonomous and some other human beings are _not_ autonomous. And that what makes a human being _worth_ being a human being -- her autonomy -- is something that just _accidentally supervenes_ on her. And you are also saying that what makes a human being a human being _is_ a disposition, not of the human being, but of the _character_ of the human being. So you are saying that a human being can lack autonomy, yet have a _character_ (I disagree there), which is or is not _disposed_ to deliver autonomous acts. All very confusing, if you ask me. I just think it all sums up to your idea that what really matter is the fickle disposition of _some_ human beings (those whose character is disposed to allow them to be autonomous). I never heard anything so sacrilegous in the whole story of Western (and Middle Eastern) philosophy (before). Cheers, JL JL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com