[lit-ideas] Re: The end?

  • From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Yours are exactly the cigarette industry's arguments.  Where is the proof?  Why 
is it that ALL scientists except industry scientists and lobbyists say it's 
happening?  Yours are also the Rush Limbaugh arguments, look at the weather 
here and look at the weather there.  Weather keeps going, and it's going to 
keep on going, even as the earth keeps getting warmer from human activities.  
It's not going to turn on a dime, even if it's turning faster, much much faster 
than predicted.  Let's all wait for proof ...



-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Feb 4, 2007 4:32 PM
>To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The end?
>
>At 04:21 PM 2/4/2007, you wrote:
>>Good thing Paul knows.  All the scientists are wrong, but Paul knows 
>>better.  Paul and Exxon, perfect together.  Or in denial.  Saw a 
>>movie about denial last night, French, called Under the Sand.  Just 
>>plain ordinary denial, just one person's life ruined by it.  Rather 
>>on the boring side, even if not a bad study of severe denial.
>
>No I don't know. I admit I don't know. And without speaking for him, 
>as Robert said [paraphrasing of course] earlier today... just because 
>I'm not with you, doesn't mean I'm against you.
>
>  I'm not in denial. I want some fucking proof... not  conjecture. 
>Not predictions based on extrapolations on data gathered from 
>assumptions and unfalsifiable hypotheses based on broadly ranging, 
>anecdotal 'evidence'. I freely admit that things are happening, but 
>what is weather? States of emergency are raised when 19 people die? 
>Come off it! Every day, there press (your good liberal press mostly) 
>churns up scare after scare. The same day they talk of flood, they 
>talk of drought. The same day they report a heat wave, they report 
>-35 wind chill in Chicago (this is certainly NOT anything that is 
>unheard of) because the corporate line of all the papers, tv, news 
>etc. is "talk about what is current until there is somethign else to 
>talk about", so right now, since it's current, EVERYTHING is "global 
>warming". Well, they've overstepped their welcome. Even 'normal' 
>people have heard enough. Come back when you have some real 
>knowledge. You just 'know something is happening and maybe it's too 
>late' and then the next day "it's already too late and we're screwed 
>for the next 1000 years". Well, I ask you again...
>
>Without getting emotional... answer my questions? Where are the 
>definitions of the terms that are used to scare society into doing 
>whatever the 'people in know' say? I just want them to tell me what they mean.
>
>[insult edited]
>paul
>
>_________________
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>Paul Stone
>pas@xxxxxxxx
>Leamington, ON. Canada
>
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