In a message dated 6/19/2005 12:55:33 PM Central Daylight Time, andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: DOWNING STREET MEMOS Excerpts from material in secret Downing Street memos written in 2002. Hi, I wish I shared your optimism, Andreas. In my world, this is what they think (as per the new CIA director who was interviewed for the first time this weekend): "Al-Qaida could strike the United States again, he said. "Certainly the intent is very high. And we are trying to stay ahead of their capability. And so far, I think we have done pretty well carrying the war to them, as it were," Goss said." What is said here is that it does not matter if there were WMD in Iraq OR that they were lied to...what matters is that if we (and other terrorists) are fighting in Iraq, they are not going to be getting us here. It is what is said, over and over, by those whose kids are in Iraq and the soldiers themselves. It must be what they are being told...and what is allowing them to see themselves as OUR protectors and not just fighting a conflict that should have been able to be dealt with in other formats besides physical war. (I recently found my folder of all the information I had collected on this WMD, esp, before we declared war. As was stated--there was plenty of evidence to show that there were no WMD and that we had not exhausted all efforts in relation to Iraq--and also that there were alternative reasons for those who were pressing for war. No one in my world was interested in looking at any of this information...) I think it will have an impact on the people in the US only if Tony Blair gets in trouble. He is looked at so well here and as a validation of GWB's policies. Only then would they begin to really believe that there is anything but a partisan effort going on with the memos. The only aspect in my world that has changed is that a DJ recently returned from Iraq (Reserves) and is speaking out against the war--and other soldiers ARE calling in when he has his show. He's on one of the 'alternative music' stations which allows more of that sort of 'talk', but I have been surprised that he was even allowed a voice at all (given where I live and the powers that be...) WIshing she could be more optimistic, Marlena in Missouri