Much to Donal's chagrin, I'm with him here. If you can ask "what is?" of any element of an EP and get an answer, then the EP ain't EPal. I suggest that 'is' is the only EP. Bill Clinton would disagree and maybe Monica, too. But I don't know how to analyse 'is', and I think that's the final word on that. Mike Geary proud to be of service ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal McEvoy" <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 5:55 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Saying an EP > >If Donal wants to suggest > > "Blue here" as an elementary proposition, he will encounter no problems > > with > > Wittgenstein. > > Robert Paul suggested 'blue here' as an EP: I did not. Nor do I know where W > suggested it. > > The problem is whether a. blue is simple or complex - if blue can be analysed > in terms of statements of velocity it might seem it is *not* an EP or > elementary name. b. is 'here' an EP - or can the space-time point it points > to be further broken down in terms of more specific 'heres' [here in my room > can be broken down in the many points of 'here' in my room]. > > And is there a specifiable end to this breaking down where we arrive an some > sayable EPs? > > My hunch is no. > > Donal > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html