Some famous scientists seem less phlegmatic than Adriano and, indeed, seem to have a rather different understanding of the implications of such a finding being accepted:-http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/23/physicists-speed-light-violated?intcmp=239 'Brian Cox, a professor of particle physics at the University of Manchester, urged caution. "If you've got something travelling faster than light, then it's the most profound discovery of the last 100 years or more in physics. It's a very, very big deal," he said on BBC 6 Music on Friday. "It requires a complete rewriting of our understanding of the universe." Professor Jim Al-Khalili at the University of Surrey said it was most likely that something was skewing the results. "If the neutrinos have broken the speed of light, it would overturn a keystone theory from the last century of physics. That's possible, but it's far more likely that there is an error in the data. So let me put my money where my mouth is: if the Cern experiment proves to be correct and neutrinos have broken the speed of light, I will eat my boxer shorts on live TV."' Of course, Cox is discredited easily - for singing "Things Can Only Get Better", playing Hannibal Lecter in 'Manhunter' and, worse, accepting a professorship at the so-called University of Manchester. Al-Khalili only appears on BBC4 and they never do live TV and since 1986 he has owned no boxer shorts but sports briefs, so his threat may be dismissed idle. Nevertheless their responses ring of realism/falsificationism, in terms of philosophy of science, rather than instrumentalism or conventionalism. This might be explained by their being proper scientists and not given to positions comfortable for an armchair philosophiser. Donal London ________________________________ From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, 23 September 2011, 13:28 Subject: [lit-ideas] shock that report Einstein "may have been wrong" may have been wrong what gtr & str require is that there is a maximal speed, whether it is in fact C or the speed of neutrinos the theories're neutral about. regards ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ξε ν’, γγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ἀ ὅτι τ δε κείμεθα, το ς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι. /begin/read__>sig.file: postal address palma University of KwaZulu-Natal Philosophy 3rd floor of Memorial Tower Building Howard College Campus Durban 4041 South Africa Tel off: [+27] 031 2601591 (sec: Mrs. Yolanda Hordyk) [+27] 031-2602292 Fax [+27] 031-2603031 mobile 07 62 36 23 91 calling from overseas +[27] 76 2362391 EMAIL: palma@xxxxxxxx EMAIL: palma@xxxxxxxxxx MY OFFICE # IS 290@Mtb *only when in Europe*: inst. J. Nicod 29 rue d'Ulm f-75005 paris france email me for details if needed at palma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________ This e-mail message (and attachments) is confidential, and/or privileged and is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail you must not copy, distribute, take any action in reliance on it or disclose it to anyone. Any confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. This entity is not responsible for any information not related to the business of this entity. If you received this e-mail in error please destroy the original and notify the sender. Please find our Email Disclaimer here-->: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer