LH: Mrs. Miniver was never conflicted. She knew that what the Fascist believed was wrong. That movie was made in 1942, longer ago that Mike Geary is old. The world has been deconstructed since then in the eyes of deconstructed Liberal Democrats our Liberal Democracy has become worse than Fascist Islamism. But thankfully these people exist only in certain small circles, SS: Excuse me, Lawrence, but how did a criticism of liberal Democrats get into that summary of Mrs. Minniver? What did I miss? Stan Spiegel Portland, ME ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:11 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Mrs. Miniver My wife occasionally gets me to watch an old movie with her, and tonight we watched Mrs. Miniver. It was surprisingly good. Greer Garson did an amazing job of acting and won the academy award for it. The movie took place in the early days of World War II. It's about an English family's efforts to rise above the hardships of war. And, as Netflix tells me, "Mrs. Miniver stands tall, strong, proud and still filled with hope." In one scene Mrs. Miniver finds a wounded German pilot in her yard. He produces a Luger and insists that she feed him and give him a coat to cover his uniform. She reproaches him for Germany's killing of women and children and he threatens to do the same to England. At which she slaps him on the face. The German's fascist speech reminded me of the Islamists speeches I've read. Islamism is after all an a fascist tyranny in its ideology. Francis Fukuyama believes Liberal-Democracy shall defeat all competing forms of government and society, but Fascism is alive and well in the form of Islamism. Islamists promise to do to us what the German flyer promised to do to Mrs. Miniver. In a scene in a partially ruined church, the pastor notes the civilians who have been killed and observed that this was a war of peoples, and that therefore it wasn't surprising that little kids and old men became casualties. That is the war the Islamists are fighting as well, targeting civilians. Back in World War II, Lord Haw Haw was considered a traitor for supporting the Fascists, but the present world is more complicated. Many modern Westerners believe the Islamists are, despite their announced goals, harmless. They think that Islamist attacks on civilians are to be excused because they represent post-Colonial and post-Cold-War frustration. All the Islamists do is excused in some manner or other, and those who oppose them are blamed in words that defy logic. Surely some might think, when the Islamists get nuclear weapons, they should be opposed, and I see a breaking of ranks and a leaning toward such opposition, but others have made the final adjustment and have learned to love the bomb. Mrs. Miniver was never conflicted. She knew that what the Fascist believed was wrong. That movie was made in 1942, longer ago that Mike Geary is old. The world has been deconstructed since then in the eyes of deconstructed Liberal Democrats our Liberal Democracy has become worse than Fascist Islamism. But thankfully these people exist only in certain small circles, Circling into ever smaller Circles, a whirlpool, an Inverted water spout, Churning its liquid fury And clutching at the inadvertent In a downward rush. Beyond, a half-day Fishing boat slowly Passes, with fishers Focus on the ripples And the tugs of their Trolled lines, And further out a sailor On a broad reach Is oblivious to all but The beauty of the wind And the sun scintillating From the tops of flashing Waves, brave in exhilaration And the sea at its most joyous, But in a while the wind died down, The sea begins its evening chop, The fishers headed for home, And the sailor tacks past the sea Where the whirlpool had whirled And regrets the days end. Lawrence