In a message dated 10/11/2004 7:59:41 PM Central Daylight Time, JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx writes: Does anyone here think events like this really make a difference? To, for example, undecideds? Hi, Yes. Not so much 'his death' but the fact that he really was trying to make stem cell research and all the promises it brings--real. What it serves is more discussion--and yes, I do believe very much that my phone call on Friday night after the debate had much to do with Kerry's stance on 'science' and stem cell research. Enough to change those minds? Maybe not, but maybe so. For there are, apparently, lots of people who are unaware of the science in the whole issue--in spite of what we thinking thoughtful idea-oriented types might be aware of... I know about three couples who are still undecided. And, Paul is correct--they have always (except for one) leaned towards the Republican orientation--but they are not liking alot of what has happened. But, they would all three be going against not only family tradition, but what is being taught in their churches...but they are aware that tradition is not always best in all circumstances and they are aware enough to be troubled by aspects of faith which Bush does not have in himself or in his policies but which Kerry does (you know, the whole 'when you do this unto the least of these, you have done it unto me' and 'remember the stranger in the land' concepts...) Just my thoughts, Marlena ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html