[lit-ideas] Re: Joyce on Rome
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 06:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
If Romans made valuable contributions to human
civilization, that is because they had also civilized
aspects, mostly acquired through their contacts with
Etruscan, Greek and Middle-Eastern civilizations. It's
difficult to see how the civilization could not have
done without the razing of Carthage or without the
technique of crucifixion.
O.K.
--- Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Possibly, in which case it makes less sense than if
> he were talking about
> ancient Rome. It really doesn't make any sense. I
> know Joyce was arrested
> and unfairly if not unlawfully detained by the
> police in Rome. Will
> revert, as they used to say in Exxon (meaning I'll
> get back to you). It
> doesn't change that the Romans were brutal beyond
> words. That is our
> legacy from them as much as their numerals and
> aquaducts. Crucifying was
> policy for dealing with political and other enemies
> of Rome. It was
> intended to be more example than punishment. A
> little off the subject, but
> has it ever been proved that the Romans were in fact
> damaged by the lead
> allegedly in their water?
>
> We saw King Kong last night. He went out to get a
> movie and comes back
> with a metrosexual monkey. Actually, it was better
> than I expected. The
> special effects scenes were way too long and
> gratuitous, the natives were
> way too fearsome looking, but the love between Kong
> and the white girl came
> through without being schmaltzy; it was quite nice.
> What redeemed the
> movie for me the most was the accurate portrayal of
> the human race in the
> city as a bunch of brainless, heartless, ant-like
> jerks with big guns.
> Ain't it the truth.
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Robert Paul <robert.paul@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 4/6/2006 11:03:26 PM
> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Joyce on Rome
> >
> > > James Joyce once likened Rome to "a man who
> lives by exhibiting to
> > > travelers his grandmother's corpse." In
> addition to which, Rome was a
> > > brutal, brutal society. Is that what they've
> done for us?
> >
> > Joyce was talking about contemporary Rome, the
> city, not about the Roman
> > Republic.
> >
> > Robert Paul
> >
>
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