Veronica Caley wrote: "I sent two links. The first one was the effort by some people to remove Hezbollah from the list of acceptable organizations in Canada. If you read that, then you know that there was great reluctance on the part of various officials to remove it and finally did so, except for the charities." I would appreciate if Veronica could point out, in the relevant article*, where there is mention of a 'list of acceptable organizations in Canada', which included Hezbollah. What I did read was that there is the 'Entities List' of proscribed organizations, to which Hezbollah was added. "Following the September 11 attacks, Canada enacted anti-terrorism legislation under which Canadian citizens who provide material assistance to individuals and groups listed by the government as 'terrorist entities' face a penalty of up to 10 years in prison. The list originally included only terrorist groups directly linked to Al-Qaida, but the government expanded it over the next year to include the Palestinian Islamist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad. However, following the lead of Britain, Canada outlawed only the 'external security' apparatus of Hezbollah (there is no such apparatus, per say - the term is merely a euphemism for Hezbollah cells which operate abroad)." The article goes on to give a justification for not proscribing the whole organization. "The government's justification for Hezbollah's omission from the list centered around the contention that its conventional military and political assets, education centers, media outlets, and social welfare network in Lebanon were administratively separate from a so-called 'external security apparatus,' headed by Imad Mughniyah, that bears responsibility for such international terrorist attacks as the 1994 bombing of the Argentine-Israeli Community Center in Buenos Aires, which killed 85 people. It is claimed that Mughniyah lives in Iran, coordinates directly with Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp (IRGC) officers, and operates independently of the formal Hezbollah power structure. Putting an end to Hezbollah fundraising in Canada would not necessarily weaken its external arm, the reasoning went, but would only hurt hundreds of thousands of dreadfully poor Lebanese Shi'ites who depend on Hezbollah. 'It is important not to label [elected officials], doctors, and teachers as terrorists,' said Foreign Affairs Ministers Bill Graham." It appears that there was an attempt to distinguish the social work that Hezbollah does in Lebanon from the work of its 'security apparatus'. This is, of course, in no ways an acceptance of Hezbollah but rather an attempt to impose sanctions on terrorists while also trying to avoid punishing poor Lebanese. The Canadian government received a great deal of criticism from both sides. The Lebanese complained that Hezbollah shouldn't be on the list at all, while Jewish groups claimed the social/security distinction was spurious. According to the article, the crucial moment came with speeches made by a leader of Hezbollah. "On December 4, the Washington Times published an article by Paul Martin claiming that Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah had called for a global suicide bombing campaign in two recent speeches. 'By Allah, if they touch Al-Aqsa we will act everywhere around the world,' Nasrallah was quoted as saying at a Jerusalem Day rally on November 29. A few days earlier, according the paper, he had told supporters at a rally in the Beqaa Valley, 'I encourage Palestinians to take suicide bombings worldwide. Don't be shy about it.' The report set off a firestorm in Canada. The following day, two major Canadian dailies, the National Post and the Globe and Mail, ran front-page articles carrying the quotations and Graham's tone suddenly changed. 'Hezbollah, as an entity, is indicating that it doesn't intend to be governed by the rules of civilized conduct,' he told reporters. 'Those statements will clearly be factored into our decision-making in terms of what we will do with Hezbollah in this country. That decision is being made by cabinet.' A week later, Solicitor General Wayne Easter officially added the group to the list." According to Veronica, "It was at that point that B'nai B'rith went to a court and asked that the charities be removed as well, in that it was impossible to determine whether funds were going to human needs or terrorism. The time line shows that the court suit was initiated by BB in late November. And as you say, Hezbollah was put on the list you cite on Dec. 11th, both these periods in 2002." Now, I can't reconcile Veronica's commentary with the article. First, the article is discussing the 'Entities List' which is a list of proscribed organizations. I don't know why Veronica is talking of a 'list of acceptable organizations'. Second, the article is talking about including Hezbollah, first its 'security apparatus' and then the organization as a whole, not removing Hezbollah. Third, the article clearly relates the inclusion of Hezbollah on the 'List' to, first, 11 September and then the speech by the Hezbollah leader. While there is mention of Canada giving aid to Lebanon, the article makes no mention of Canada finding Hezabollah 'acceptable'. Perhaps Veronica has confused aid to Lebanon with aid to Hezbollah? Also, the article clearly relates the inclusion of Hezbollah to the 'List' to the activities of Hezbollah, and not to Jewish pressure groups. I do think that the Canadian government is far too soft on terrorist groups who do fund-raising in Canada, but I see no evidence that Canada finds these groups 'acceptable'. And I am sorry that Veronica was unable to emigrate to Canada. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON *http://www.meib.org/articles/0301_l3.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html