Interesting about Judy Evans' brother being an old Cowbridgian (along with Anthony Hopkins who was recently shooting in the middle of nowhere in the Province of Buenos Aires -- the film to be called, "The End of the World" I believe). Some quotes below about 'grammar' school. 1387 _TREVISA_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-t2.html#trevisa) Higden (Rolls) V. 51 At Alexandria he heeld a gramer scole. This is surely non-English, but perhaps the thing _is_ a translation of 'skhole grammatike', which would _not_ be for the training into the Latin Language, but more like the Greek Language, I would think. 1454 E.E. Wills (1882) 133 For to fynde to gramer scole my cosyn, his sone William. 1523 _FITZHERB._ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-f.html#fitzherb) Husb. §147, I lerned two verses at grammer-schole. -- and one is _not_ "God save the Queen". 1593 _SHAKES._ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-s2.html#shakes) 2 Hen. VI, IV. vii. 37 Thou hast most traiterously corrupted the youth of the Realme, in erecting a Grammar Schoole. This was filmed with Laurence Olivier and that tremendously boring sound track music by Walton. 1616 _R. C._ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-c.html#r-c) Times' Whistle ii. 845 The foole Was never farther than the grammer schoole. Your brother may not like this, but _Cowbridge_ *is* different and your brother was indeed "farther than the grammar schoole". 1647 Laws Massachusetts (1672) 136 Where any Town shall increase to the number of one hundred Families..they shall set up a Grammar School. ' 1711 _STEELE_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-s4.html#steele) Spect. No. 157 1 The many Heart-aches and Terrors, to which our Childhood is exposed in going through a Grammar-School. Master Evans would agree? 1809 _KENDALL_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-k.html#kendall) Trav. III. lxxvii. 197 It differs therefore in nothing from the other grammar schools, called academies. -- Well, that's PLATO's Territory, and allows for a whole different thread. 1858 _DE QUINCEY_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-d.html#de-quincey) Autobiog. Sk. Wks. II. 268 At the little town of Hawkshead..a grammar-school (which, in English usage, means a school for classical literature) was founded. So I assume they taught a sprinkle of Greek. 1874 _GREEN_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-g2.html#green) Short Hist. vi. §4. 305 The grammar schools of Edward the Sixth and of Elizabeth..had changed the very face of England. Figuratively, that is. 1876 _BANCROFT_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-b.html#bancroft) Hist. U.S. V. xxii. 577 They provided for a school in each town, a grammar-school in each county, and a university in the state. 1963 _BARNARD_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-b.html#barnard) & LAUWERYS Handbk. Brit. Educ. Terms 101 Grammar school,..The term nowadays is used for a secondary school with an academic curriculum, particularly suited for preparing pupils for entry to the universities or professions. attrib. 1826 _SYD. SMITH_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-s3.html#syd-smith) Wks. (1869) 529 An Hamiltonian makes, in six or seven lessons, three or four hundred times as many exchanges of English for French or Latin, as a grammar schoolboy can do. Good quote of a good writer. 1898 _J. K. JEROME_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-j.html#j-k-jerome) Second Thoughts of Idle Fellow 266, I like to think of him [Shakespeare] as poacher, as village ne'er-do-well, denounced by the local grammar-school master. ----- J. L. Speranza, Esq. Town: Calle Arenales 2021, Piso 5, St. 8, La Recoleta C1124AAE, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 11 4824 4253 Fax 54 221 425 9205 Country: St. Michael Hall, Calle 58, No. 611, La Plata B1900 BPY Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 221 425 7817 Fax 54 221 425 9205 http://www.stmichaels.com.ar jls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx jlsperanza@xxxxxxx http://www.netverk/~jls.htm ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com