[lit-ideas] FW: Re: FW: Re: WTO and War
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:23:05 -0800
Whoops. Here it is: http://www.alamut.com/subj/economics/misc/clash.html
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Lawrence Helm
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:13 AM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: WTO and War
Here is a 1993 article by Huntington from Foreign Affairs. Presumably it
was fleshed out for his book of the same title which published in 1996.
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:35 AM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: WTO and War
Germany was/is IN (as in was a member of) the Western Civilization, and we
fought a WORLD WAR against them. Therefore, what does "Clash of
Civilizations" mean? Does he refine the term to mean clash *within*
civilizations, sort of like a little domestic violence, just a few tens of
millions dead, no big deal, as opposed to ... ??? I neither approve nor
disapprove of his terms. I just think he's bandying around words that are
meaningless, and the words are being repeated as though by repetition
they'll become more meaningful.
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From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
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Sent: 3/1/2006 11:49:36 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: WTO and War
Those writing about the decline and fall of civilizations, historians,
sociologists, and anthropologists have developed terminology suitable to
their tasks. Huntington uses the most widely accepted classification of
civilizations in his thesis. Germany, of course, is in the Western
Civilization.
Im sure Huntington, and the other historians, sociologists and
anthropologists will be devastated to learn that you dont approve of their
terminology.
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:30 AM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] FW: Re: WTO and War
Lawrence, what civilization would you put the Germans in (WWII)?
Clashes of civilizations is an oxymoron. Clashes of barbarians is more to
the point. Clashes of barbarians is definitely ongoing. It's known as
history.
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From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 3/1/2006 12:51:41 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: WTO and War
the arguments of Samuel P. Huntington who argues against Fukuyama and thinks
we shall have ongoing clashes of civilization.
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