On 2005/05/27, at 12:21, Andy Amago wrote: > A.A. All people who follow soccer are passionate; some are > hooligans. But > all people who follow religion *must* subscribe to religion's terms > or they > cannot be in the club. Andy, With all due respect, you have an exceedingly parochial view of religion. Demanding commitment to dogma as a criterion for membership that excludes membership in other "clubs" is characteristic of the monotheistic religions that originated in southwest Asia. It is far from the norm worldwide. Where religions are polytheistic, e.g., in South and East Asia, dogma plays second fiddle to practice and multiple, overlapping memberships are the norm. Plus, even the monotheistic religions generally allow considerable leeway in the beliefs that people actually subscribe to. Yes, it is true, there are enthusiasts who insist that this or that belief is absolutely essential and also broad agreement on certain notions, e.g., Christianity's view that Christ is the Son of God and the Saviour. But there's lots of flex and blur in what people actually mean when they articulate these beliefs. John McCreery ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html