> [Original Message] > From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 8/12/2006 10:19:05 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Alternatives to one-upmanship > >My > remarks concerned to the personae displayed in the Punch and Judy > shows into which our political debates tend to deteriorate. > John, I think you're wonderful, but I do take exception to the above line. Our political debates? What about the "political debates" of our vaunted leaders of the free world? You're absolutely right, though, people are entrenched in ideology and can't see beyond it, including our political leadership, no matter how many facts are presented to them, or, even more tragically, no matter how much reality, like the results of the invasion of Iraq, don't even slow down more of the same, like the Israeli invasion, or put a dent in war talk against Iran. The true Punch and Judy show is out there in the real world. I thought this interesting, especially the first couple of paragraphs, Bush in effect playing God: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14286066/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html