Don't know if this is how it's supposed to be in slack, but hdb won't allow me to change ownership of files. It may be that it's in vfat, as it came from a W98 box, & I ~can~ repartition & format it ext2 or 3, if that'll fix it, but I don't know that either. Anyway, this is the line in fstab: /dev/hdb1 /backup vfat umask=0,silent,rw 1 0 Is there anything else which would allow it to be up to me who owns what? Meph -- Every solution breeds new problems. To unsubcribe send e-mail with the word unsubscribe in the body to: Linux-Anyway-Request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?body=unsubscribe