[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: revised UEB table: first part done
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 02:42:33 -0600
Sounds good. I would advise using en-us-g1.ctb not the GB grade 1 table.
the en-us-g1.ctb table has many tweaks that the other does not. It
should be a simple matter to change the dot patterns for the Braille
indicators.
John
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:21:38AM -0800, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> That would be useful for our next task: testing symbols. Right
> now, I plan to finish laying the foundation for testing by
> revising the contractions found in United States Grade 2 braille
> to that of UEB. This task should take no more than two days - so
> the next test iteration should be ready by Monday. Thanks.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
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> From: Greg Kearney <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:24:19 +0800
> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: revised UEB table: first part
> done
>
> For information on the various indicators and other UEB usage
> please see www.cbtbc.org/ueb/
>
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> On 16/11/2012, at 10:28 PM, "John J. Boyer"
> <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks for the info. How do the GB tables do in
> back-translation? That
> is a big weakness of the current UEB tables.
>
> What is the problem with getting a build of liblouisutdml in
> Windows?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:45:53AM +0000, Paul Wood wrote:
> John,
> First I appreciate that the US tables are undoubtedly the best,
> but are
> they the best way forward for UEB?
> Do we have access to a list of differences from BANA to UEB?
> Maybe the Australians have one?
> The reason I ask is the gb or SEB tables might not be 100% but
> are
> pretty close, we have work at the moment checking this on a
> 'normal'
> book, but experience so far is very good, only picking up
> foreign words
> and problems with apostrophes and quotes etc.
> But we do have a good list of differences between the codes, so
> with a
> table expert, which I'm not! it should be quite easy to modify
> the SEB
> (gb) tables to UEB.
> I still haven't got a working latest liblouisudtml in windows,
> which has
> been the delay for us.
> I'm going down the DAISY pipeline2 route and have latest betas
> to test
> this week, which I hope to do today or Monday.
> If you can access a good list of differences for US to UEB, then
> of
> course that would be the best approach!
> more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Braille
> HTH
> Paul
>
> On 16/11/2012 10:14, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>
> Great work. I think that trying to fix the UEB grade 1 table
> would be
> more work than modifying en-us-g1 for UEB. The en-us tables
> contain a
> lot of knowledge that the persons who made the UEB tables didn't
> have.
>
> From what I know of UEB largesign opcodes should be replaced
> with always
> joinword should be replaced with word or maybe deleted.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:03:01AM -0800, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Attached is the revised UEB table based on en-us-g2.ctb. For
> consistency,
> I
> named the file as "en-ueb-g2.ctb".
>
> In the first part:
>
> . Modified the header to add my email address and wrote
> the fact
> that this table is for testing purposes only. Also declared
> that this
> table
> is based on en-us-g2.ctb.
>
> . Removed "ally" and "ation" contractions, as they are
> not needed
> anymore.
>
>
>
> Just curious: are there any problems with uebc-g1/g2.ctb? If the
> problems
> are severe, then starting from scratch would be a good idea,
> with the
> basis
> for these tables coming from en-us-g1/g2.ctb.
>
> Thanks.
>
> //JL
>
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