[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Message that should have gone to the list: [john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Re: Re: Is liblouis capable of preparing the Norwegian bible for embossing?]

  • From: Paul wood <paulw.torchtrust@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:41:16 +0000

Sorry I realized after I sent it!
Paul

On 19/01/2012 2:53 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
The message to which I reply in this one was sent both to me and to the
list. Please do not do that. It is very confusing. Please keep all
discusion on the list.

Moderator

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Subject: Re: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Is liblouis capable of preparing the 
Norwegian bible for embossing?
From: "John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:46:47 -0600
To: Paul Wood<paulw.torchtrust@xxxxxxxxx>

These are good things to know. I am wondering how liblouisutdml could be
given such a capability. If a particular style were defined for Bible
verses it would be a simple matter to keep track of the first and last
on a page. The tag for that style would also have to have an attribute
giving the book, chapter and verse. This would also be useful in
translating doctionaries. It's another thing to be implemented to make
the liblouis suite and BrailleBlaster the equal of any transcription
package which can be bought.

Finally, I would have much preferred if this discussion had been on the
liblouis-liblouisxml list. Others might have ideas. Many would find it
interesting and would learn from it.

John

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:58:48PM +0000, Paul Wood wrote:
Lars,
We are also faced with this problem and I don't think that liblouis's
formatter is capable, as John also says. I thought I had was to use
Word or similar to automate the footer references from the verse and
chapter numbers. I have done this for some Large Print Bible we did a
couple of years ago. By using a fixed width font and creating a page
the right size for your braille cells, this will format the main text.
If you are using uncontracted braille then a series of search and
replaces should create the translation, but before that the verse
numbers, Chapter names&  numbers need to be styled with a character
style, this can be automated from the source file markup. Then using
Word's footers and the first and last style references the correct
verse references can be generated i.e. John 3:1-14 etc. It wasn't
perfect as I had to correct when a change in chapter occured at the
start of a page, but it saved a lot of work and I can let you have the
footer code for Word. If it's contracted braille then it will get
complicated to style the numbers etc. I presume you are not trying to
also format the UBS way with verse numbers on a left hand column, as
this is definately beyond anything I have seen that hasn't been
specifically written for Bible formatting. We do have a transcriber
who has written code in Fortran to do this from the UBS marked up
file, but I don't know that programming language and when I looked at
it it wasn't easy to follow. He might be willing to do your job,
although he is quite elderly now.
Please let me know how you get on, as I'd also like to crack this one as well!

Regards
Paul

"John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:

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