[LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)

You're hilarious, Ted. usually, in the street situation, I just plunk in 400 
ISO, choose a high shutter speed and set the distance at 3 m with f 8-f11. 
Nobody even notices but, one has to have a sense of the horizontal...a wee bit 
difficult if you've been crawling through pubs. It's all good, eh ?
Dave 



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From: "tedgrant@xxxxxxx" <tedgrant@xxxxxxx>
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 5:54:01 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)

Sorry David it doesn't work that way! Besides in all my years of using M 
cameras there hasn't ever been a time where I required or even thought of a 
waist level finder.

yep on the R camera an occasions or two, but the necessity was never large 
enough to require buying one.

Besides the M if swung properly flat base plate to the opponents skull 
leaves them with a very fine idea of.... "Don't mess with Leica M camera 
photographers!" :-) Man it has got to hurt real bad when you give them a 
real good whack! :-)
cheers,
ted


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Simms" <simmszee@xxxxxxxx>
To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:44 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)


> Gentlemen;
> In the interests of PEACE and of maintaining your M or R camers in ex+ 
> condition, I would suggest the use of the add-on 90 degree finder of the 
> R- not quite what we'd call an elegant solution- and the AUFSU or 
> sometimes the AFSU ancient waist level finder for the M. I've been kicking 
> myself for passing up one, well used, example on the Bay for $89. This way 
> we can hide our M cameras, set for hyperfocal distance and get the shot 
> WITHOUT USING THE M AS A WEAPON. Just an idea.
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "tedgrant@xxxxxxx" <tedgrant@xxxxxxx>
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:16:16 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] avoiding M6 weaponry
>
> Wayne,
> You are the only other person in my 60 year career as a professional 
> photojournalist that I've ever heard used an M in this fashion as we did! 
> I suppose there are a few others out there, however I'll stick to the 
> story that we are very special Leica M photograpers in fights and fury! 
> :-)
> Given the area I'm surprised you got away with it and lived another day. 
> Certainly when we hear the stories about some
> of those parts that I might call "Off limits parts of town!" :-)
> cheers,
> ted
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne Serrano" <wayneserrano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:58 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>
>
>> Hi Ted,
>> A great tale for sure! But sorry to hear abut the abuse. So I am going to 
>> share some details of my encounter;
>> I was in East LA in what some call the barrio! I was shooting street 
>> scenes of the environment and people going about their regular business 
>> nothing special overall but lots of interest in the details. As I was 
>> walking coming towards me were three 20+ something year old gentlemen who 
>> were obviously from the area. As we past each other the one closest to my 
>> left shoulder said loudly to the other two 'nice cameras.' I was carrying 
>> one M6 with a Rapidwinder (aluminum with cocking lever folded) with a 
>> 50mm Summicron mounted and carried across my neck and chest and hanging 
>> off my left side. A second M6 with Rapidwinder (Brass with folded lever) 
>> with 28mm Summicron was in my right hand with the strap wrapped around my 
>> wrist and hand. Suddenly, a few steps past these gents I feel a large tug 
>> on my left shoulder and forcing me to spun around. As I continued to spin 
>> or rather turn I had begin to bring the camera up and seeing that the 
>> fairly big young
> man was pretty close I used
> m
>> y momentum to help bring the M6 with brass winder come into flat contact 
>> with the left side of this individuals head and face. He went down hard, 
>> just sort of sat down actually then went over onto his side like a sack 
>> of potatoes. He two friends immediately went to his aid and began to cuss 
>> him out! The lad was conscious but a tad goofy and confused. His friends 
>> apologized and said he got what he deservered, I said I was sorry and as 
>> I walked away my step was a bit more focused in putting as much distance 
>> as I could between them and myself.
>> It wasn't something I enjoyed but at the moment it was a fight or flee 
>> situation.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> ps My M's have never ever let me down!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: tedgrant@xxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Jan 8, 2010 3:14 PM
>>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>>>
>>>Wayne Serrano offered:
>>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6
>>
>> Hi Wayne,
>> Now I feel really good as I now know I'm not alone using an M camera as 
>> an excellent weapon of choice when one's well being is in a moment of 
>> peril! :-)
>> My situation occurred right after a CFL football game and some "drunks" 
>> began pushing and shoving the rent-a-cops around who were asking them to 
>> leave the playing field. I shot a few frames just as one drunk saw me 
>> shoot him. So now he's in full charge at me wanting my camera, meanwhile 
>> I had the strap around my right wrist and trying to calm him down. Oh 
>> yeah and I had a Nikon with a 500mm mirror lens attached hanging around 
>> my neck on my chest. In any event, I was without question in a "NO WIN 
>> SITUATION" this guy was determined to get the camera. So I gave it to 
>> him! :-)
>> As hard as I could swing it on the neck strap I let him have it base 
>> plate flat to the left side of his head.... he dropped like a brick! :-) 
>> I mean if you are going to whack someone in this fashion you must do it 
>> with all your strength! As you don't want them to get up any madder at 
>> you than they are! So WHAAM!!!!
>> His buddies weren't too happy with that, so they jumped me face down on 
>> the ground and began punching me in the head and back, fortunately the 
>> rent-a-cops saved me . But the impact going down to ground broke the 
>> mirror lens right out of the body of the camera. In any event I found out 
>> they were off duty police officers in civvies, so it was easy to track 
>> them down as I had some sharp clear images of one or two guys brawling 
>> and a Canadian Press photog had photographed them on top of me punching 
>> away.
>> One officer 16 years experience was fired, another suspended and a couple 
>> of others were put on other type of duty. The police paid for the 
>> repairs. But I bet the guy I clocked with the M4 had a very long 
>> headache! ;-) Yep the camera worked just fine and required no service 
>> whatsoever. Just got to love those M Leica's in a battle! ;-)
>> cheers,
>> ted
>>
>>
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