Sorry David it doesn't work that way! Besides in all my years of using M cameras there hasn't ever been a time where I required or even thought of a waist level finder. yep on the R camera an occasions or two, but the necessity was never large enough to require buying one. Besides the M if swung properly flat base plate to the opponents skull leaves them with a very fine idea of.... "Don't mess with Leica M camera photographers!" :-) Man it has got to hurt real bad when you give them a real good whack! :-) cheers, ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Simms" <simmszee@xxxxxxxx> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-) > Gentlemen; > In the interests of PEACE and of maintaining your M or R camers in ex+ > condition, I would suggest the use of the add-on 90 degree finder of the > R- not quite what we'd call an elegant solution- and the AUFSU or > sometimes the AFSU ancient waist level finder for the M. I've been kicking > myself for passing up one, well used, example on the Bay for $89. This way > we can hide our M cameras, set for hyperfocal distance and get the shot > WITHOUT USING THE M AS A WEAPON. Just an idea. > Dave > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "tedgrant@xxxxxxx" <tedgrant@xxxxxxx> > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:16:16 PM > Subject: [LRflex] avoiding M6 weaponry > > Wayne, > You are the only other person in my 60 year career as a professional > photojournalist that I've ever heard used an M in this fashion as we did! > I suppose there are a few others out there, however I'll stick to the > story that we are very special Leica M photograpers in fights and fury! > :-) > Given the area I'm surprised you got away with it and lived another day. > Certainly when we hear the stories about some > of those parts that I might call "Off limits parts of town!" :-) > cheers, > ted > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Serrano" <wayneserrano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:58 PM > Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-) > > >> Hi Ted, >> A great tale for sure! But sorry to hear abut the abuse. So I am going to >> share some details of my encounter; >> I was in East LA in what some call the barrio! I was shooting street >> scenes of the environment and people going about their regular business >> nothing special overall but lots of interest in the details. As I was >> walking coming towards me were three 20+ something year old gentlemen who >> were obviously from the area. As we past each other the one closest to my >> left shoulder said loudly to the other two 'nice cameras.' I was carrying >> one M6 with a Rapidwinder (aluminum with cocking lever folded) with a >> 50mm Summicron mounted and carried across my neck and chest and hanging >> off my left side. A second M6 with Rapidwinder (Brass with folded lever) >> with 28mm Summicron was in my right hand with the strap wrapped around my >> wrist and hand. Suddenly, a few steps past these gents I feel a large tug >> on my left shoulder and forcing me to spun around. As I continued to spin >> or rather turn I had begin to bring the camera up and seeing that the >> fairly big young > man was pretty close I used > m >> y momentum to help bring the M6 with brass winder come into flat contact >> with the left side of this individuals head and face. He went down hard, >> just sort of sat down actually then went over onto his side like a sack >> of potatoes. He two friends immediately went to his aid and began to cuss >> him out! The lad was conscious but a tad goofy and confused. His friends >> apologized and said he got what he deservered, I said I was sorry and as >> I walked away my step was a bit more focused in putting as much distance >> as I could between them and myself. >> It wasn't something I enjoyed but at the moment it was a fight or flee >> situation. >> >> Regards, >> >> Wayne >> >> ps My M's have never ever let me down! >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: tedgrant@xxxxxxx >>>Sent: Jan 8, 2010 3:14 PM >>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-) >>> >>>Wayne Serrano offered: >>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 >> >> Hi Wayne, >> Now I feel really good as I now know I'm not alone using an M camera as >> an excellent weapon of choice when one's well being is in a moment of >> peril! :-) >> My situation occurred right after a CFL football game and some "drunks" >> began pushing and shoving the rent-a-cops around who were asking them to >> leave the playing field. I shot a few frames just as one drunk saw me >> shoot him. So now he's in full charge at me wanting my camera, meanwhile >> I had the strap around my right wrist and trying to calm him down. Oh >> yeah and I had a Nikon with a 500mm mirror lens attached hanging around >> my neck on my chest. In any event, I was without question in a "NO WIN >> SITUATION" this guy was determined to get the camera. So I gave it to >> him! :-) >> As hard as I could swing it on the neck strap I let him have it base >> plate flat to the left side of his head.... he dropped like a brick! :-) >> I mean if you are going to whack someone in this fashion you must do it >> with all your strength! As you don't want them to get up any madder at >> you than they are! So WHAAM!!!! >> His buddies weren't too happy with that, so they jumped me face down on >> the ground and began punching me in the head and back, fortunately the >> rent-a-cops saved me . But the impact going down to ground broke the >> mirror lens right out of the body of the camera. In any event I found out >> they were off duty police officers in civvies, so it was easy to track >> them down as I had some sharp clear images of one or two guys brawling >> and a Canadian Press photog had photographed them on top of me punching >> away. >> One officer 16 years experience was fired, another suspended and a couple >> of others were put on other type of duty. The police paid for the >> repairs. But I bet the guy I clocked with the M4 had a very long >> headache! ;-) Yep the camera worked just fine and required no service >> whatsoever. Just got to love those M Leica's in a battle! ;-) >> cheers, >> ted >> >> >> >> ------ >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ >> Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.130/2607 - Release Date: > 01/08/10 07:35:00 > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for > Yahoo! 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