[LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
- From: Wayne Serrano <wayneserrano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 21:02:28 -0500 (EST)
Ted,
Bravo, well stated! I normally work with as little equipment as possible...
depends on the task and/or opportunity. Light and quick! Sometimes no matter
how much you try to remain plain and unseen people with wrong intent push the
envelope.
I just hope I don't have to protect myself again,
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
>From: tedgrant@xxxxxxx
>Sent: Jan 8, 2010 8:54 PM
>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>
>Sorry David it doesn't work that way! Besides in all my years of using M
>cameras there hasn't ever been a time where I required or even thought of a
>waist level finder.
>
>yep on the R camera an occasions or two, but the necessity was never large
>enough to require buying one.
>
>Besides the M if swung properly flat base plate to the opponents skull
>leaves them with a very fine idea of.... "Don't mess with Leica M camera
>photographers!" :-) Man it has got to hurt real bad when you give them a
>real good whack! :-)
>cheers,
>ted
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Simms" <simmszee@xxxxxxxx>
>To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:44 PM
>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>
>
>> Gentlemen;
>> In the interests of PEACE and of maintaining your M or R camers in ex+
>> condition, I would suggest the use of the add-on 90 degree finder of the
>> R- not quite what we'd call an elegant solution- and the AUFSU or
>> sometimes the AFSU ancient waist level finder for the M. I've been kicking
>> myself for passing up one, well used, example on the Bay for $89. This way
>> we can hide our M cameras, set for hyperfocal distance and get the shot
>> WITHOUT USING THE M AS A WEAPON. Just an idea.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "tedgrant@xxxxxxx" <tedgrant@xxxxxxx>
>> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:16:16 PM
>> Subject: [LRflex] avoiding M6 weaponry
>>
>> Wayne,
>> You are the only other person in my 60 year career as a professional
>> photojournalist that I've ever heard used an M in this fashion as we did!
>> I suppose there are a few others out there, however I'll stick to the
>> story that we are very special Leica M photograpers in fights and fury!
>> :-)
>> Given the area I'm surprised you got away with it and lived another day.
>> Certainly when we hear the stories about some
>> of those parts that I might call "Off limits parts of town!" :-)
>> cheers,
>> ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wayne Serrano" <wayneserrano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:58 PM
>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ted,
>>> A great tale for sure! But sorry to hear abut the abuse. So I am going to
>>> share some details of my encounter;
>>> I was in East LA in what some call the barrio! I was shooting street
>>> scenes of the environment and people going about their regular business
>>> nothing special overall but lots of interest in the details. As I was
>>> walking coming towards me were three 20+ something year old gentlemen who
>>> were obviously from the area. As we past each other the one closest to my
>>> left shoulder said loudly to the other two 'nice cameras.' I was carrying
>>> one M6 with a Rapidwinder (aluminum with cocking lever folded) with a
>>> 50mm Summicron mounted and carried across my neck and chest and hanging
>>> off my left side. A second M6 with Rapidwinder (Brass with folded lever)
>>> with 28mm Summicron was in my right hand with the strap wrapped around my
>>> wrist and hand. Suddenly, a few steps past these gents I feel a large tug
>>> on my left shoulder and forcing me to spun around. As I continued to spin
>>> or rather turn I had begin to bring the camera up and seeing that the
>>> fairly big young
>> man was pretty close I used
>> m
>>> y momentum to help bring the M6 with brass winder come into flat contact
>>> with the left side of this individuals head and face. He went down hard,
>>> just sort of sat down actually then went over onto his side like a sack
>>> of potatoes. He two friends immediately went to his aid and began to cuss
>>> him out! The lad was conscious but a tad goofy and confused. His friends
>>> apologized and said he got what he deservered, I said I was sorry and as
>>> I walked away my step was a bit more focused in putting as much distance
>>> as I could between them and myself.
>>> It wasn't something I enjoyed but at the moment it was a fight or flee
>>> situation.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> ps My M's have never ever let me down!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: tedgrant@xxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Jan 8, 2010 3:14 PM
>>>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6 AS A WEAPON!! :-)
>>>>
>>>>Wayne Serrano offered:
>>>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Using the M6
>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>> Now I feel really good as I now know I'm not alone using an M camera as
>>> an excellent weapon of choice when one's well being is in a moment of
>>> peril! :-)
>>> My situation occurred right after a CFL football game and some "drunks"
>>> began pushing and shoving the rent-a-cops around who were asking them to
>>> leave the playing field. I shot a few frames just as one drunk saw me
>>> shoot him. So now he's in full charge at me wanting my camera, meanwhile
>>> I had the strap around my right wrist and trying to calm him down. Oh
>>> yeah and I had a Nikon with a 500mm mirror lens attached hanging around
>>> my neck on my chest. In any event, I was without question in a "NO WIN
>>> SITUATION" this guy was determined to get the camera. So I gave it to
>>> him! :-)
>>> As hard as I could swing it on the neck strap I let him have it base
>>> plate flat to the left side of his head.... he dropped like a brick! :-)
>>> I mean if you are going to whack someone in this fashion you must do it
>>> with all your strength! As you don't want them to get up any madder at
>>> you than they are! So WHAAM!!!!
>>> His buddies weren't too happy with that, so they jumped me face down on
>>> the ground and began punching me in the head and back, fortunately the
>>> rent-a-cops saved me . But the impact going down to ground broke the
>>> mirror lens right out of the body of the camera. In any event I found out
>>> they were off duty police officers in civvies, so it was easy to track
>>> them down as I had some sharp clear images of one or two guys brawling
>>> and a Canadian Press photog had photographed them on top of me punching
>>> away.
>>> One officer 16 years experience was fired, another suspended and a couple
>>> of others were put on other type of duty. The police paid for the
>>> repairs. But I bet the guy I clocked with the M4 had a very long
>>> headache! ;-) Yep the camera worked just fine and required no service
>>> whatsoever. Just got to love those M Leica's in a battle! ;-)
>>> cheers,
>>> ted
>>>
>>>
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