Hello, Bill I open all images from RAW files, after selection from the JPG ones. With Digilux 3files, I use directly PS CS5, with updated profiles. With Canon files, I use DPP, a Canon software, also with updated profiles. In this phase, there are already various tools to improve the images, in both cases. In a second stage, PS offers enough tools, filters, etc. to follow improving the picture, and progressively recover the "real picture" you saw when you took it. After many failed intents -some, frankly disastrous- I'm approaching slowly to the results I was looking for; but I just post some pictures. the rest, better you don't see it J Thank you so much. Cheers, Marc De: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Bille Xavier F. Enviado el: lunes, 18 de febrero de 2013 21:31 Para: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; douglasmsharp@xxxxxxxxxxxx; telyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; kididdoc@xxxxxxx; phil_501@xxxxxxxxxxx; philippe.amard@xxxxxxxx; dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [LRflex] Surprise? Hmmm ? Good Day Flexers. I have no superb images to offer, Marc Dufour has presented lately something I would not compete with.... Bravo Camarade ! No, really, my 'niche', a.K.a 'speciality' is rather the 'what do I get when.....' Today, something rather interesting and a quizz to win a superb post card of Paris. I have been using the Compact Lumix LX5 and wondered if a Raw image is as Raw as on the Digilux 3. In fact the LX5 comes in a second or even third generation after the Digilux3 and often the solution to resolve a need is different. All right, not teasing more, let's dive. Here is a picture taken in raw mode, developped with Silkypix, normal, the white balance was rather set to another specific place, my underground, hence the blueish cast, mostly due to a end of a sunny day while the main light was artificial: http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/BWSurpriseLX5/P1010733_dev.jpg Now, same compact LX5, same light but I applied a different 'taste' of film, dynamic B&W, here is the Jpeg, resized: http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/BWSurpriseLX5/P1010736_root.jpg All right, a few Bretzel have gone, the image may look a bit muddy (but not that bad, any way, at resolution of 1200 dots, you can hardly say otherwise....). Now, look at the raw image stored by the camera and plainly developped in Silkypix (version 5, all of them anyway): http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/BWSurpriseLX5/P1010736_dev.jpg To tell you, when the last image is opened by silkypix, it shows out of range values for the balance..... Now, quizz: what is the idea behind this set up, why is it much better to develop inboard an image like this? Your postcard is on the way..... To finish up, the raw images of taste B&W dynamic taken with the Digilux 3 do not look like this. Here on the compact, it's a trick to optimize another process..... Why not! A very interesting system apprach, in my eye. I'll tell you what is behind... Cheers! #----------------------------------- From : Xavier F. BILLE mail : hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx Maisons Alfort - France