Doug, Very simply, from the B&H website! An R9 kit with cheap 35-70mm lens is $ 4300. A DMR is $6000. Together they add up to 10 kilobucks plus. Don't they? Then ya gotta add add shipping or sales tax. So show me where one could buy a new camera, lens and digi-back for under 10 kilobux. I hope you realize that ya gotta have a lens, camera and a digital back. You may be able to find a better deal because you are a "name" photographer, but I am not. Jerry Douglas Herr wrote: > Jerry, where do you get the $10,000 plus figure? > > The 4/3 cameras are not in the same league as the Canon 1D-series, > Leica R9/DMR, or Nikon D2x because they have a smaller, noisier sensor. > > Doug Herr > Birdman of Sacramento > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > > > PJQ, > > > > Stop obfuscating like a politician! Stick to answering the question! > > > > I want to compare a $10,000 PLUS camera with the new Leica > > lensed Panasonic DSLR. Don't bring up red herrings such as > > Canon or Olympus hybrids. Stick to the subject, or do not answer > > at all. In other words, do not be like a politician. > > > > Jerry > > > > Peter.Quick@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > >> Xavier, > >> Do you mean that this new Leica-lensed DSLR will compete with > >> the $10,000 DMR/ Leica R9 combination? > >> > >> What are feelings about this? > >> > >> Jerry > >> > >> Hi Jerry, > >> The Panasonic DSLR is not in the same league as the DMR (R8 or R9), > >> not > >> even near the parking lot of the ball game (my opinion, held out as a > >> target to be shot down, but they're very different beasties - only > >> thing > >> in common - they're digital cameras). The Leica lens is a different > >> story. > >> > >>> From the Panasonic side of things, the camera will compete with sub > >>> $1500 > >> Olympus offerings (E330, E500). > >> The Panasonic camera doesn't offer anything new or outstanding and > >> will > >> compete on looks (it becomes a fashion thing). > >> > >> BUT! It's very great/wonderful/fantastic to see the 4Thirds standard > >> moving and not fizzling out. > >> > >> Oly E owners are lusting over the lens already, and my dusty crystal > >> ball > >> says it'll be more expensive than it's Oly or Sigma equivalents. > >> There'll be a kit deal - which makes the lens seem cheaper - but if > >> you > >> already own an E body, (especially an E1) you probably can't see > >> value in > >> the Pana body). > >> > >> *IF* the Leica lens turns out sharper than an Oly "Pro" digital, the > >> forum lusting in 4Thirds land is justified and it will be a > >> spectacular > >> piece of glass. > >> > >> Regs, > >> PJQ > >> > >> PS. Please ignore the corporate legal mumbo-jumb of this non-removable > >> footer... > >> > >> This is an email from Corrs Chambers Westgarth or Corrs Support > >> Services Pty Ltd. The email and any attachments may be confidential, > >> legally privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you are not the > >> intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information > >> contained in this e-mail. If you have received this email in error, > >> please notify us immediately and delete the email and all copies. We > >> do not guarantee that this email and any attachments are free from > >> virus or other errors. We will not be responsible for loss or damage > >> resulting (either directly or indirectly) from any such virus or > >> error. We will only be responsible for a change to a document if we > >> made the change. The content of and opinions expressed in > >> non-business emails are not necessarily ours. > >> If this is a commercial electronic message within the meaning of the > >> Spam Act, you may indicate that you do not wish to receive any > >> further commercial electronic messages from us by sending an email to > >> mailto:privacy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> ------ > >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > >> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > >> Archives are at: > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: > >> 04/27/2006 > > > > ------ > > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > > Archives are at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > > > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 04/27/2006 ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/