[LRflex] Re: Olympus and Leica

Jerry,
Now we're getting somewhere.
Compare the Yankees and Dodgers. You come up with a list of differences 
naturally separating the leagues.
This list will be similar for any pair of baseball teams from different 
leagues. 
It's a list of differences separating leagues, not a direct comparison of 
two teams.

Much more useful is a comparison of the Yankees with TeamX from the same 
league and the Dodgers with TeamY from their league.

Compare the DMR+R9 with the big Nikon or Canon, or if you want to push 
boundaries: another digital back system.
Compare the Panasonic L1 with an Oly E series, or pushing the boundaries: 
a high-end digicam.

Regs,
PJQ




Peter,

Wrong!  Those two baseball teams certainly could be compared.
They just play in different leagues.

But get back to the original topic.  No generalities, please.

Jerry

Peter.Quick@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> PJQ,
> Making a flat statement like "not in the same league" sounds like
> a politician.  What do you mean by that? The Yankees are not
> in the same league as the Dodgers is a true statement. Yours
> is non specific.
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerry,
> I wouldn't know a Yankee or a Dodger, from the Prime Minister's Eleven. 
So
> I'll take your word for them not being in the same league, and in that
> case; would you compare them?
>
> You wouldn't, that's the point - they're not in the same league - and
> difficult to compare.
>
> Peter.Quick@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > > Do you mean that this new Leica-lensed DSLR will compete with
> > > the $10,000 DMR/ Leica R9 combination?
> > "The Panasonic DSLR is not in the same league as the DMR"
> >
> > >
> > > What are feelings about this?
> >
> > "they're very different beasties - only thing in common - they're
> digital
> > cameras"
> > "The Leica lens is a different story".
> >
> > That better?
> >
> > PJQ,
> >
> > Stop obfuscating like a politician! Stick to answering the question!
> >
> > I want to compare a $10,000 PLUS camera with the new Leica
> > lensed Panasonic DSLR.  Don't bring up red herrings such as
> > Canon or Olympus hybrids.  Stick to the subject, or do not answer
> > at all. In other words, do not be like a politician.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Peter.Quick@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > Xavier,
> > > Do you mean that this new Leica-lensed DSLR will compete with
> > > the $10,000 DMR/ Leica R9 combination?
> > >
> > > What are feelings about this?
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > Hi Jerry,
> > > The Panasonic DSLR is not in the same league as the DMR (R8 or R9),
> not
> > > even near the parking lot of the ball game (my opinion, held out as 
a
> > > target to be shot down, but they're very different beasties - only
> thing
> > > in common - they're digital cameras). The Leica lens is a different
> > story.
> > >
> > > >From the Panasonic side of things, the camera will compete with sub
> > $1500
> > > Olympus offerings (E330, E500).
> > > The Panasonic camera doesn't offer anything new or outstanding and
> will
> > > compete on looks (it becomes a fashion thing).
> > >
> > > BUT!  It's very great/wonderful/fantastic to see the 4Thirds 
standard
> > > moving and not fizzling out.
> > >
> > > Oly E owners are lusting over the lens already, and my dusty crystal
> > ball
> > > says it'll be more expensive than it's Oly or Sigma equivalents.
> > > There'll be a kit deal - which makes the lens seem cheaper - but if
> you
> > > already own an E body, (especially an E1) you probably can't see 
value
> > in
> > > the Pana body).
> > >
> > > *IF*  the Leica lens turns out sharper than an Oly "Pro" digital, 
the
> > > forum lusting in 4Thirds land is justified and it will be a
> spectacular
> > > piece of glass.
> > >
> > > Regs,
> > > PJQ
> > >
> > > PS. Please ignore the corporate legal mumbo-jumb of this 
non-removable
> > > footer...



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