Keep looking Jerry. My name has nothing to do with it. Doug Herr Birdman of Sacramento http://www.wildlightphoto.com On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > Doug, > > Very simply, from the B&H website! An R9 kit with cheap 35-70mm > lens is $ 4300. A DMR is $6000. Together they add up to 10 kilobucks > plus. Don't they? Then ya gotta add add shipping or sales tax. So > show > me where one could buy a new camera, lens and digi-back for under > 10 kilobux. > > I hope you realize that ya gotta have a lens, camera and a digital > back. > > You may be able to find a better deal because you are a "name" > photographer, > but I am not. > > Jerry > > > Douglas Herr wrote: > >> Jerry, where do you get the $10,000 plus figure? >> >> The 4/3 cameras are not in the same league as the Canon 1D-series, >> Leica R9/DMR, or Nikon D2x because they have a smaller, noisier >> sensor. >> >> Doug Herr >> Birdman of Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> >> On Apr 27, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: >> >>> PJQ, >>> >>> Stop obfuscating like a politician! Stick to answering the question! >>> >>> I want to compare a $10,000 PLUS camera with the new Leica >>> lensed Panasonic DSLR. Don't bring up red herrings such as >>> Canon or Olympus hybrids. Stick to the subject, or do not answer >>> at all. In other words, do not be like a politician. >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> Peter.Quick@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>>> Xavier, >>>> Do you mean that this new Leica-lensed DSLR will compete with >>>> the $10,000 DMR/ Leica R9 combination? >>>> >>>> What are feelings about this? >>>> >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> Hi Jerry, >>>> The Panasonic DSLR is not in the same league as the DMR (R8 or R9), >>>> not >>>> even near the parking lot of the ball game (my opinion, held out as >>>> a >>>> target to be shot down, but they're very different beasties - only >>>> thing >>>> in common - they're digital cameras). The Leica lens is a different >>>> story. >>>> >>>>> From the Panasonic side of things, the camera will compete with sub >>>>> $1500 >>>> Olympus offerings (E330, E500). >>>> The Panasonic camera doesn't offer anything new or outstanding and >>>> will >>>> compete on looks (it becomes a fashion thing). >>>> >>>> BUT! It's very great/wonderful/fantastic to see the 4Thirds >>>> standard >>>> moving and not fizzling out. >>>> >>>> Oly E owners are lusting over the lens already, and my dusty crystal >>>> ball >>>> says it'll be more expensive than it's Oly or Sigma equivalents. >>>> There'll be a kit deal - which makes the lens seem cheaper - but if >>>> you >>>> already own an E body, (especially an E1) you probably can't see >>>> value in >>>> the Pana body). >>>> >>>> *IF* the Leica lens turns out sharper than an Oly "Pro" digital, >>>> the >>>> forum lusting in 4Thirds land is justified and it will be a >>>> spectacular >>>> piece of glass. >>>> >>>> Regs, >>>> PJQ >>>> >>>> PS. Please ignore the corporate legal mumbo-jumb of this >>>> non-removable >>>> footer... >>>> >>>> This is an email from Corrs Chambers Westgarth or Corrs Support >>>> Services Pty Ltd. The email and any attachments may be >>>> confidential, >>>> legally privileged and/or subject to copyright. 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