With any luck at all, you'll find an instructor who'll be helpful in that respect. You can often contact the instructor before signing up (at least here their phone numbers are even on the web page describing the course), so if you want to ask first about any special needs, do so. Classes are usually fairly small: Unless you have the bad luck of ending up in one which has in effect become an ongoing social club with the same people repeatedly attending (a minority, though it did happen to me once), people will probably be friendly and helpful. Chris ________________________________ From: Kevin Willey <kevinwilley@xxxxxx> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:07:44 PM Subject: [LRflex] Re: Age-Experience Dilemma :{ Chris, thanks, I'm on it. May be a technical language issue, however. Kevin On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Chris L wrote: In Germany, if you live in/near a largish city, look at the local Volkshochschüle offerings. The one where I live still offers courses dedicated to analogue & B&W photography. I love the 19mm second version, but it's not cheap, even used. Chris ________________________________ From: Kevin Willey <kevinwilley@xxxxxx> Question: are any of you aware of a specially recognized BW film workshop? I'd like to shoot my Hasselblad 500CM and my Leica R8. Obviously, I want to avoid a class full of Canon/Nikon/Sony full frame digital shooters based upon my assumption that I will be much, much slower than them because of the different formats and automation. So, I will scour the internet for a BW film shooting trip/workshop. But I thought I would bounce this off you pros as well. PS: looking for a recommendation on a wide angle R-lens? Will likely buy off eBay. Erwin Puts is not too enthusiastic about the R Elmarit F2.8/24mm compared to other Leica lens.