[JA] Re: Repeated loss of access to large email files
- From: Don L Elias <donelias@xxxxxxxx>
- To: juno_accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:28:59 -0500
I still have this question - How did you get 3500 emails in one folder.
You say that Juno never warned you about how many files you could
store, but my V4 Juno cuts me off within a few of 1000.
I think that J1.49 saved messages in a pure text format so that you
could access them with any word processor/text editor. Unfortunately,
it would be tough to find an individual message in the massive file.
A word processor, though, could be used to search for a particular
date or subject, etc. Possibly the pure text file could be split up
using the word processor so each segment would be small enough
to be imported into Juno without blowing up.
It would make sense to me for you to create several additional folders
to save your messages in so that your 2 folders would not get so
huge and unmanagable. How about Inbox2, Inbox3, etc. or January,
February, etc. or Subject1, Subject2, etc.
Are you sure of Andrew's capabilities? I am not doubting this, but it
seems that he should have been able to help your situation somewhat.
If you pull the plug on Juno every 6 month and start over how do you
expect to have access to the old Juno files??
Which version of Juno yielded the 17 folders you spoke of previously?
I plead ignorance to Juno 5. I originally installed it and did not like
all the internet involvement, so I went back to J4.
Don Elias
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:57:13 -0500 "Robert M. Cosby" <jvpoa@xxxxxxxx>
writes:
>
>
> Thanks for responding, George. I hope my many questions are not
> boring
> everyone! If some of these issues have by now already been
> addressed in
> the last few days, please excuse and skip them. My history is as
> follows:
>
> While contentedly using J1.49 in November, 2000, and having perhaps
> 3,500
> messages in both InBox and Sent mail, my system locked up and
> prevented
> access. Believing that Juno was forcing me to upgrade, since it had
> been
> beating me to death with messages, (but which I didn't want to do
> because
> I am only interested in text and wanted to prevent receiving
> viruses), in
> desperation I went online in December, 2000 and upgraded to J4. My
> old
> User file was eventually saved. However, my old email files remained
> inaccessible.
>
> J4 worked until April, 2001, when it also failed along with my
> computer.
> Guess what: viruses! Again in desperation, to buy time to get things
> fixed, I began using Juno Online through a library computer. In its
> wisdom, Juno wrote me that my going into my account through the web
> so
> often was bypassing their advertisers, an illegal action, and so
> they had
> terminated my account. Horrified, I tried everything I could think
> up.
> Finally, a friend of mine made an appeal to the Juno web master.
> After a
> couple of months without service, he sent me a note saying my
> explanation
> had been accepted, and my account was reestablished on the first day
> of
> June, 2001.
>
> So, I got another computer, and started up again with J5. After a
> long
> time, someone was willing to fix, and go back into, my first
> computer HD
> and save the old first and second Juno User files to disc.
> Subsequent
> efforts to import the old email files into J4 by a Juno techie
> friend,
> Andrew, with a much better computer than mine, actually crashed his
> computer also, when he tried to import one of the large email files.
> He
> is well protected by Norton, and the disk had also been scanned by
> InnoculateIT.
>
> J5 worked until the "inadequate memory" notice appeared July 1,
> 2002, and
> failed. I again had about 3,500 InBox and the same in Sent mail, as
> you
> know. Yes, I was locked out of my whole account, including all
> folders,
> all mail.
>
> So, now I have three saved Juno User files containing lots of email,
> and
> cannot open any of them. Efforts to import known small email
> folders as
> a test have also failed.
>
> Using the import feature, I can only import the file titles, but
> when the
> importing process says it has successfully imported the email,
> nothing
> shows up under the file name, and yet the system locks up with the
> inadequate memory message.
>
> As I have said several times, the Backup Wizard doesn't work for me.
> It
> refuses to save large email files - just skips right over them, and
> when
> I've asked it to import non-email files, it has imported something
> from
> the wrong account.
>
> I don't know enough about J4 to say what Andrew tried. However,
> when I
> tried to import the J5 stuff using the Juno "Manage Email Folders",
> it
> presumably tried to import the mailbox.'s as a set, if that is what
> is
> necessary. At the other times when I tried to copy and paste
> manually
> what I thought was the email-containing file, I think I just set up
> the
> new account and tried to substitute the ..bdb file alone. Neither
> attempt worked.
>
> If there is a lesson to be learned here, I'm all for it. Currently,
> I
> plan to pull out my entire User file every 6 months and start over.
> Hopefully, that way I can plug it back in when needed to look up old
> messages. Yes, I delete everything I don't want to save, and
> everything
> I write needs to be saved forever. That amounts to about 10
> messages per
> day for each at this point, or 3,000 each per year. Remember,
> nowhere
> does Juno warn or give a solution to this file size problem!
>
> Yes, I Scandisc, and defrag, and backup, and deworm, and wash my
> cables
> every night (just kidding on this last!). :-)
>
> Yes, "us" is the millions of small, disgruntled Juno users who have
> yet
> to locate juno_accmail. So, what have we collectively been doing in
> the
> past 6 years to have Juno answer these important basic issues for
> everyone? Or, for that matter, how has juno_accmail been publicized
> to
> all users?
>
> As has been pointed out, neither Juno's electronic responders nor
> website
> nor Presidential email nor Juno humans of any kind provide this
> information. Your information is extremely helpful to us serious
> writers!
>
> Many thanks!
> Bob C.
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:55:21 -0700 George H Lunt <glunt@xxxxxxxx>
> writes:
>
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