[JA] Re: Keeping your name out of archived messages

  • From: thepccat@xxxxxxxx
  • To: juno_accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 05:40:58 -0800


Some say one should present ones ideas and take whatever consequences
against ones true name [the small town model]. Others choose to have
several personas, not all associated with their true name. That way, the
ideas/opinions/speculation expressed become less of the "real world," and
more of the "virtual world" which we have come to understand, appreciate,
and love. These ideas float more or less by themselves, to be judged by
their usefullness to another, rather than raining judgement upon the
author.

Privacy seems to be a recent [and temporary and imperfect] creation of
present conditions, albeit desired, loved, and expected by many. I think
keeping names out of archived messages will fail to be 100% effective,
therefore useless. Privacy issues seem to me difficult at best, requiring
study, understanding, planning, diligence, and a certain amount of luck
[and inattention from others who may pry into things preferred to be
uninvestigated]. [Even finding out about "privacy issues" and how to
implement privacy in ones communications is somewhat of a "private"
secret :-).] The same technology which resulted in our email
communication explosion has also resulted in [for example] Enron being
likely unable to obscure their activities even with extensive paper
shredding. 

With email, though your words are copyrighted in the act of putting them
into digital form, you reasonably have little control of where they may
go or show up. Search engines like Google, etc., to their credit, index
the good and the bad, the illegal and the morally upstanding, etc. --
just what I would hope and expect from a distributed network of computers
programmed to find and database links to content. I think an interesting
introduction to a small part of "the real world," would be for anyone to
do a search on one's true name, email address, partial address, nickname,
whatever.

I often have a hard time knowing what to say when, and when to not say
something. I think we all have thoughts and reactions, which we may have
in more private [or extreme] moments, which we might choose not to
present at a business meeting, or for publication on the front page of
your local paper, given time to reflect on potential consequences.
Sometimes sharing these thoughts with something/someone can be part of
ones growth process. Then one grows, and later may come to regret having
shared that raw bit of [what passes for] oneself.

We are ultimately responsible for the consequences of our actions, even
these little 1's and 0's. This is not law, custom, or opinion, it is a
*universal rule* [imho :-)]. However, hope always springs eternal to
modify and mitigate some of the potential consequences of our actions.
There are ample, though imperfect, means to do just that, and I wish
anyone who desires to do so will implement these means in their best
interests. 

When I have written something like this, I don't know if I am helping,
wasting others' time, revealing something negative about myself, wasting
*my* time, or whatever. Often I select "Clear" and the writing disappears
[except for those ones and zeros located on sector XXXXXX of my HD]. I
finish with some quotes -- sometimes learning that a "famous" person has
had an idea which you are working with may help. Even if they use "man"
where they really mean "human" or "person."

thepccat [meow]

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What a heavy oar the pen is, and what a strong current ideas are to row
in!
-Gustave Flaubert, novelist (1821-1880)
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Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers.
-Mignon McLaughlin, author
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All the world's a stage, / And the men and women merely players: / They
have their exits and their entrances; / And one man in his time plays
many
parts. -William Shakespeare, poet and dramatist (1564-1616)
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There is a foolish corner in the brain of the wisest man. -Aristotle,
philosopher (384-322 B.C.)
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Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates
profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love. -Lao Tzu, philosopher (6th
century B.C.)
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The limits of my language mean the limits of my world. -Ludwig
Wittgenstein,
philosopher (1889-1951)
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Shall I tell you the secret of the true scholar? It is this: every man I
meet is my master in some point, and in that I learn of him. -Ralph Waldo
Emerson, writer and philosopher (1803-1882)
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Religion--Any one man's opinion, but consists
mainly of doing right. 
--Punkin Centre Philosophy.
From Uncles Josh's Punkin Centre Stories by Cal Stewart
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Sometimes to remain silent is to lie. 
-Miguel de Unamuno, philosopher and writer (1864-1936)
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Every creator painfully experiences the chasm between his inner vision
and
its ultimate expression. -Isaac Bashevis Singer, writer, Nobel laureate,
(1904-1991)
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Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they
ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. -Solon, statesman
(c. 638-c558 BCE)
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Words form the thread on which we string our experience. -Aldous Huxley,
writer and critic (1894-1963)
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Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears. -Marcus
Aurelius, philosopher and writer (121-180)
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Life is a long lesson in humility. -James M. Barrie, writer (1860-1937)
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Nothing can be so clearly and carefully expressed that it cannot be
utterly
misinterpreted.
--Fred W. Householder, American linguist, "Linguistic Speculations", 1971
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Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire is that which he
exercises over himself. -Elie Wiesel, writer, Nobel laureate (1928- )
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If you are patient in one moment of anger, 
you will avoid one hundred days of sorrow. 
- Chinese Proverb
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Often you must turn your stylus to erase, if you hope to write anything
worth a second reading. -Horace, poet and satirist (65-8 BCE)
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It is a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human problem
all
one's life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of
advice than "try to be a little kinder." -Aldous Huxley, novelist
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