On Saturday 28 October 2006 18:38, deadcats wrote: > You know, this debate (not to mention the whole GNU/GPL3 stuff) is more > than I care to address. I just want my home machine to run the > latest-n-greatest with the least amount of hassle. If folks call me a user, > so what--that be me! :) I think that is 99% of Linux users. That is one of the reasons that Debian lost mindshare in the past - all that "free" politics and stuff meant you had to work to get things done. Now we have Ubuntu, etc. > Reading the link, I realize that in geek-speak "Ubuntu" means "those that > can't run Debian." But what is Debian? If it means a set of packages that, > installed together, give the user no sense of identity, then I agree. Seems > rather bland to me... Oh, I don't know about that. Debian users tend to have a very strong sense of identity as Debian users -- which is where you're probably getting the anti-Ubuntu backlash. (A lot of Debian users think that Ubuntu is getting a free ride.) There is a lot of angst on Planet Debian (I have my screensaver set to "Apple ][" and it defaults to pulling the rss feed from Planet Debian). Debian Developers who are also Ubuntu Developers are torn with the whole FireFox/Mozilla debate and how it morphed into a Debian/Ubuntu fight. And something happened at a Linux conference in France last month that got everyone into a tizzy. Ubuntu is debian-based, but isn't necessarily for less technically adept users. It just has a more rapid development cycle so users don't need services like debian-backports or run "testing" all the time. And the installer and desktop integration are usually better than plain-Jane Debian. Any Debian user who trashes Ubuntu is probably just jealous of Ubuntu's position on distrowatch. Debian has been going through a LOT of acrimony lately. GPL3 and Mozilla trademarks are nothing compared to Dunk-Tank. :) A few established DD's quit over that fight. > http://www.beranger.org/ > > He's great! :) I've already added a couple of OpenBSD bookmarks from his blog. ------------------------------------ The Juneau Linux Users Group -- http://www.juneau-lug.org This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to juneau-lug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject header.