[jhb] Re: Track IR for free
- From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:17:01 -0000
Track IR accepts that people don't always sit upright or straight. When you
first start calibration you are asked to sit in your normal position and
posture, then press the reset button which then records that position as the
baseline for further calibration.
Track IR calibration is quite complex and it can take a while before tuning
settings to your own satisfaction. Initial calibration may seem good on the
first session but the brain has already started adjusting to the system in
that it compensates for unusual or excessive movement. When you start a
second session the brain is starting from scratch again and the settings can
often feel very wrong. Ideally you need to tweak gradually over several FS
sessions until head movement feels correct right at the start of a session.
bones
bones@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 16 January 2011 09:03
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Track IR for free
One other feature I found to be against it was its accuracy. I seemed to
be in a permanent slight bank. A look at the webcam view, when I spotted
the trigger, showed my head does in fact incline sightly to one side.
Not much but enough for the software to detect it and assume it was
intentional. I couldn't spot a setting to input this as a normal
vertical and I haven't much hope of being able to re programme myself.
Easier to switch it off. Does Track IR do this, or is it focusing just
on a single spot?
Basically, though, it's a good idea, since it uses hardware that many
already have.
Gerry Winskill
On 16/01/2011 08:32, Phil Reynolds wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Managed to take a more thorough look at this last night, with not much
> success unfortunately.
>
> Whilst the movement was fluid (and in the direction it supposed to be!)
> there was always a very pronounced "lag" to the movement and a rather
> large "drift" at the end of each movement. By "drift" I mean a
> continuation of the movement well after I'd stopped moving my head (an
> extension to the lag almost). Altering the settings available to me in
> terms of sensitivity (the curve settings) didn't seem to change anything
> drastically and so trying to manipulate the panels whilst in this mode
> became an impossibility, not being able to get the screen static in the
> position required for any length of time.
>
> The other annoyance was that when looking straight forward after a while
> the view would start to rotate left, as if I were leaning my head to the
> left. Only resetting the software would cure this.
>
> I could be my webcam, I might "borrow" my daughters one when she's not
> looking and have another go.
>
> I'll keep an eye on things as this is only a beta for FSX/FS9, but
> currently it's not something I'm going to be using...
>
> Phil
>
> On 14/01/2011 21:27, Phil Reynolds wrote:
>> Had a quick look earlier using FS9 before relatives turned up, so
>> literally installed and started up with the default settings.
>>
>> In the few minutes I had the results were encouraging with movement
>> fairly fluid and fairly accurate. It did occasionally mess up and look
>> straight down which resulted in an automatic reset (the software
>> resets the FS view to straight forward and recommences scanning your
>> face).
>>
>> In sure with some tweaking of settings I'll be able to get things
>> better, I'll report back when I have more time to do so...
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2011 18:23, Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx
>> <mailto:gwinsk@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't have a webcam on my FSX machine but realised I can try it
>> on this setup. I have FSX on this PC too, so that I can use progs
>> that come with installers, then move them across to the FSX setup,
>> with no risk of its Registry being contaminated.
>>
>> At first the No Track prog wouldn't boot up, saying there was a
>> .dll missing. Looking through the unzipped downloads I spotted
>> there is a second prog to be installed.
>>
>> With that done it booted up and, with the upgrade having been
>> installed, FSX was one of the file options. After that I realised
>> the START button must be there for some reason, so pushed it and
>> the webcam's blue light came on. Moving my head produced a view of
>> the VC Cockpit; pity because the THTG setup on the FSX machine
>> means Tom, John and I are confined, in my case choose, to using 2D
>> panels.
>>
>> Perhaps it will adjust for THTG but, with just one monitor, the
>> first slight snag is that the view, as I stare at the monitor, is
>> what I would see looking over my right shoulder. Not flyable but I
>> must be missing something?
>>
>> Gerry Winskill
>>
>>
>> On 14/01/2011 10:04, Phil Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Looks really good. I'll be testing this tonight with my
>> webcam, thanks
>> for the heads-up (and down, left, right, etc !!!)
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> On 13 January 2011 12:20, Kev Townsend <175@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:175@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <mailto:175@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:175@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well - Sort of
>>
>> http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm
>>
>> If you have a webcam setup, this will pan the screen by
>> recognising
>> face movement.
>>
>>
>> Seems cheap for £10
>>
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>>
>> best wishes
>>
>> Kev
>>
>>
>>
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