Re: unsubscribe
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 09:37:32 -0700
Hi,
I suspect it isn't that they don't understand these helpfully-posted
instructions. I think they just don't bother reading anything below that
line, at least not after they first join the list and find that what's down
there are server instructions that they have no need of, yet. And then they
forget what's below the line in the area they never revisit, after that.
Sighted people would necessarily see that material in every message whether
they needed it at the moment or not, and wouldn't forget it was there, at
least. Of course, some sighted people certainly would ignore the
instructions despite their being right there in front of them, out of haste
or whatever sort of distraction.
But the truth remains that a screen reader user has to arrow down there
deliberately, from time to time, or else the instructions simply disappear
from the mind. As a formerly fully sighted person making a long transition
of progressive vision loss, I've become unhappily accustomed to many such
lapses on my own part. For instance, where I once knew the street names in
my neighborhood quite well when I drove or walked past their signs every day
of my life, I've begun to forget most of them since losing the ability to
see them in passing. And just yesterday I had to call Amazon to request
help with an error message I couldn't make any sense of, having to do with
my having failed to completely update a listing in my Amazon address list,
because I had forgotten that there was another section to be filled out
beneath the area where I'd painstakingly input some new information. Had I
just arrowed down a couple of lines, I'd have "seen" that I had something
more to fill in before pressing the continue Shopping button to confirm my
changes. But I didn't happen to arrow down, because it had been a long time
since I'd edited that area and had simply forgotten that there were more
parts to it. Again, a sighted person wouldn't have even had to think about
this.. but it's hard to be a vigilant screen reader person every moment,
and so we forget stuff.
anyway, that second example is, I think, a better analogy to the question of
why people post directly to the list requesting to be unsubscribed. It
looks really dumb, but I think it isn't as simple as that, often.
For anyone who feels this was way off topic, my polite apologies for your
discomfort. But I sincerely believe that issues like this offer the
opportunity to reflect a little on how to understand ourselves and others
better by taking things like what I've tried to explain into consideration.
I know it helps me to make better sense of a world that sometimes seems
pretty arbitrary and absurd in ways I wouldn't have even thought of before
my retinas began to deteriorate.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
You'd think some people become illiterate as soon as they see the dashed
line at the bottom of EVERY message.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ryan west" <ryanwest47@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
> Hello,
>
> Just thought you might like to know if you want to be removed you will
> have to send it to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx and put unsubscribe in the
> subject line.
>
> HtH
> Ryan West
>
> Email: ryanwest47@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Msn messenger, and Skype sign in: ryanwest47
>
> Each day after your born is one day closer to your death so make every day
> a special one!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "N & G." <lakeking@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:40 PM
> Subject: unsubscribe
>
>
>>
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>>
>
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