You are not insulting me at all. ... In fact, my feeling is quite the opposite. It is one of sincere appreciation for all of the help that you and the others have given me regarding this very strange problem, and other problems I have wrestled with since joining the list. All I can say is that I wish I had joined the group earlier. I will try your strategies here as soon as I can get the time to work with the laptop again, and tell you what I find. Sincerely, Tom Behler in Colorado ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: Re: still having strange problem with notepad shortcut on Dell Lattitude 610 laptop, even after hot key detective has been successfully installed Tom, Hoping I'm not being insulting, but again on the Dell laptop the Ctrl key is the very bottom left key, and the Alt key is immediately left of the shift bar. If you're pressing the Alt and the next key in, you'll perhaps get that Icon, but not sure. I can't replicate what you're seeing on my Dell, with any combinations, but Alt+Ctrl+N does nothing on my machine. Here's how to look for the keystroke... 1. JAWS+F2 for a dialog 2. Down arrow for Keyboard Manager 3. If you're not pointing to default.kbm then arrow up/down to highlight it. 4. Tab to get to the next pane with all the key combinations. 5. Alt+a for the action menu. 6. arrow to Find Keystroke. 7. At the hotkey prompt press Alt+Ctrl+n 8. Press Enter. If that keystroke is active, it will come up with a description of what it does. Most likely it will come up with "Ctrl+Alt+N not found". It did on my machine. This is not the solution, but one way to see if something's not right with JAWS. By the way if it did find that key combination, you can delete it by: a. Alt+a for the Actions menu b. Arrow down to "remove keystroke". c. Answer okay to all the prompts d. Alt+f for file and x to exit. If all that fails to work, why not just assign a different hot key to Notepad? I use Alt+Ctrl+T, for no particular reason. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom behler" <tombehler@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 14:28 Subject: Re: still having strange problem with notepad shortcut on Dell Lattitude 610 laptop, even after hot key detective has been successfully installed How can I check the Jaws configuration and see if the problem is what you suggest? I don't have this problem on my main PC. Tom Behler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: Re: still having strange problem with notepad shortcut on Dell Lattitude 610 laptop, even after hot key detective has been successfully installed Tom, How frustrating! After all that work, it's still not doing the right thing. All I can now suggest is that your JAWS configuration has a keystroke Alt+Ctrl+N pointing to the My Computer ICON, and therefore overriding the notepad application. Are you absolutely sure you're pressing the Alt and Control keys on the laptop? For the Dell Latitude, The Alt key to the immediate left of the space bar, and the Ctrl key on the very bottom left corner should work with the "N" key. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom behler" <tombehler@xxxxxxxxx> To: "jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 13:06 Subject: still having strange problem with notepad shortcut on Dell Lattitude 610 laptop, even after hot key detective has been successfully installed Hello, everyone. I know I keep promising that I am asking my last question regarding the use of hot key detective, but my original strange problem with my Dell Lattitude Laptop, which started this whole discussion, has not gone away. To review: I now have hot key detective successfully installed on my laptop, and I can easily access it via a desk top icon, thanks to the installation instructions provided by a number of list members. However, when I do the alt control N shortcut for notepad, I am taken directly to the "my computer" icon on the desk top. Interestingly, when I have hot key detective list the shortcuts on the hard drive of my laptop, it lists alt control N as a short cut for notepad. Very strange! Any suggested fixes? Tom Behler -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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