Very very few. I'd ask that question on a news group like comp.sys.laptops since those guys *really* know laptops. If it's going to be used primarily as a desktop replacement, you can always buy an external keyboard (they're only around $15), and use that most of the time, and then you don't have to worry about it when buying the laptop. This even allows you to keep the lid closed and thus saving the display life. Chip =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hughs Mail > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:18 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: new computer buying >=20 > How many laptops would have a full keyboard that is a=20 > keyboard with the number pad as part of the keyboard not a=20 > plug in add on =20 >=20 > For email use hugh.megarry@xxxxxxxxxxxx For M S N use=20 > hughmegarry@xxxxxxxxxxx For Skype use hugh.megarry All the=20 > best for now=20 >=20 > Email hugh.megarry@xxxxxxxxxxxx >=20 > =20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange > Sent: 29 July 2004 18:57 > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: new computer buying >=20 >=20 > My advice is not to worry about any of it; don't worry about=20 > the processor type or speed, the video card, the sound card,=20 > none of it will make any difference to jaws. None of it will=20 > make any difference to you as a user. >=20 > Having a little more memory than average will help some, so=20 > I'd recommend 512 mb of ram, but that's about the only=20 > specification I think is worth your attention. >=20 > Much more important to you is whether you buy a laptop or a=20 > desktop system. >=20 > Here, there's no doubt what-so-ever in my mind, buy a laptop=20 > of some sort. You can usually choose between bigger and more=20 > powerful and more expandible, or smaller and lighter, so your=20 > choice should be based on how much you plan to carry it=20 > around. If it's going to be sitting on a desk most of the=20 > time (like mine), don't pay the extra for one of the very=20 > small very light models, buy one of the desktop replacements. > They're still quite light (under 8 pounds) and easily moved=20 > when needed, and that's my point; that is, a blind person may=20 > need to take their adapted computer to places where only=20 > unadapted computers are available. > There's pretty much nothing you can't do with a laptop of=20 > today, and there's so much more you can do if you own one,=20 > this is where you should be concentrating your decision. >=20 > Hth, >=20 > Chip >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20 > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 > >On Behalf Of Jean Menzies > > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 1:17 PM > > To: JFW list > > Subject: new computer buying > >=3D20 > > Okay. First I am not a techie, and a lot of the numbers on=3D20=20 > >hardware and memory don't mean much to me. =3D20 As I said,=20 > we're buying=20 > >a new computer and I need a bit of=3D20 advice in terms of=20 > making sure=20 > >what we pick is compatible and=3D20 won't be a problem for Jaws. > >=3D20 > > I kind of know the power specs we need, so I won't bother=20 > the=3D20 list=20 > >with asking for what to buy in that regard. But when we=3D20 look = at=20 > >memory for example, I know DDR is okay, but what is=3D20 > > DDR2 and is it still okay with Jaws? > >=3D20 > > So far we've been experimenting with Del configurations=3D20 =20 > online. =20 > >What about video cards? Are there any to stay away=3D20 =20 > from? The only=20 > >brand I know is Invidia, and it doesn't seem=3D20 to pop up=20 > as a choice=20 > >on the Del site. 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