Just to make sure we stay on topic, let's be sure that the discussion of processors remains JAWS-related. And if it's just going to turn into a philosophic discussion of processor speed, then best take it to private e-mail. I'm trying to keep the list volume down a little so people don't feel the list is just a discussion among a few. Since I took over the list, the number of users on it has grown to over 600, so it's important that we don't get bogged down with just a discussion, comparison of our different systems, and so on. Before posting, ask yourself, (a) Is this related to JAWS? And (b) is this something that either answers a specific question or would genuinely interest a good majority of the over 600 people? Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-Mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net For the best oldies anywhere go to http://www.treasureislandoldies.com On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Cy wrote: > Hi group, > I guess I am an Athlon fan. I would suspect that the motherboard will > make a lot of difference. A duel bus motherboard will buy you a lot in > performance. The Athlon 2.4 or above should do very good. I have a > Vulcan processor fan and have not had any overheating problems. As I > mentioned to David, look at tigerdirect.com for some comparison pricing. > CYS... > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Tusing > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:33 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > > > HI, > I ask 2 questions as the Athlon chips are close together in price and > the > 2.5 mhz Athlon is $90 with the Intel 2.8 at around $230--not mucch > compared with what we paid 2 years > Would the performance of the 3 chip bethat much superior to that of > the 2.5 chip if one uses Access 32 or Eloquence, streaming radio and > Office with X P? > And could some ofthose heat issues be "less" now that the chips > are > .13 micron instead of .18 micron supposedly making them "cooler"? In > all these questions, I have in mind the use of JAWS and applications > that seem to require more ram and more power over the years. thanks > to every one. > > ago! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > > > > For this answer I would say anything around 3 and below your good to > > go > for > > prices. When you go past 3 you get into a architecture that xp can do, > > > but not many other apps. Besides another few months and there price > > will be > right. > > > > At 10:23 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: > > >ah, so if I run as much as I can out board, how low can the speed get > > > >and still be reasonable or as I am really trying to get it, how fast > > >is too fast? > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:49 AM > > >Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > > > > > > > > >Well I run a athilon 1.47, 512 ram abit k7 board with a gforce 64 mb > > >onboard video, and don't have much of a slow down except in the op. > Because > > >of a lot of my test work I do I still run 98 and that makes me run a > memory > > >manager, but I still got speed the manager just keeps me from > > >rebooting > all > > >the time witch 98 is prone to. I have had xp on the box and still no > > >slow down. With a nice chip and 512 ddr you shouldn't see any lack of > > > >speed on xp, > but > > >if your going to use a lot of the on board stuff then like I said 2 > > >gig chips are pricing nice now. > > > > > >At 08:22 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: > > > >but what about the processor speed, which is what I am after. I > > > >ask > again > > > >because jaws is the bottle neck here and I have seen fast systems > > > >with eloquence slow to a crawl even with an audio adaptor that is > > > >not built > in. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:08 AM > > > >Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > > > > > > > > > > > >I would say anything around 512 ddr should work good, and with the > prices > > > >of chips you may want to think of 2 gig or higher depending on > > > >board. > > > > > > > >At 07:39 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >I'm looking for benchmarks for a specification I'm working up to > build a > > > >pc. > > > > >I want to know the most benifitial ram speed with jaws as the > > > > >main consideration and of course, I will want to watch and maybe > > > > >burn > dvds, > > >burn > > > > >cds, run broad band and do streaming and such as well as word > processing > > > >but > > > > >not a lot of high end stuff and not open too much at once. I > > > > >will be > > >using > > > > >an external synthesizer but want a good audio card. I will be > getting a > > > > >32-bit card with a gig of ram on it if I can just to take the > > > > >video > off > > >the > > > > >processor as much as possible. I don't need a 128 bit card > > > > >because I > am > > > >not > > > > >doing cad/cam or high end gaming or modeling super sonic air > > > > >craft or sending a space ship to the moon at least not yet. > > > > > > > > > >So, I might actually be quite comfortable with a 1.6 gb processor > > > > > >for instance unless all that high powered stuff I want including > > > > >my 80 gb > > >fast > > > > >hd and my 40x optical drives just won't be supported by it. I > > > > >don't > want > > > > >the pc to crawl, I don't want jaws to pull the system down too > > > > >much > > >either. > > > > > > > > > >I'm asking this because I have seen a lot of systems that run > > > > >super > fast > > > > >without jaws but quite slowly with jaws and some that run super > > > > >fast > > > >without > > > > >jaws and even though slower with jaws, still pretty fast so It > > > > >got me > to > > > > >thinking that some bench marking might be in order becuase I > > > > >don't > want > > >to > > > > >spend a lot of money for nothing, on he other hand, if a 3.3 ghz > > >processor > > > > >will enhance the performance of jaws, well... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the > > > > >subject > line. > > > > > > > >Tim > > > >trouble > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > line. > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > line. > > > > > >Tim > > >trouble > > > > > > > > >-- > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > > >line. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > > >line. > > > > Tim > > trouble > > > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 > > > > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.