The professional version also has more commands for using Microsoft excel. I don't use Jsay I had my daughter train the program which consisted of reading passages from the screen for five minutes. I don't have a braille display so couldn't read it fluently enough using jaws. I have had excellent luck and in my opinion it isn't worth spending a big chunk of change on Jsay unless you want to do something really special with it. I bought a microphone with a mechanical turn off switch that way I don't fight with it. I don't work outside my home now since I have four kids so I'm giving you prospective for personal use not professional use. I can say that I was amazed at the accuracy of dragon naturally speaking. You can even train it to type certain things when you speak a given word I use a Microsoft spell checker to check the work so I have not had access to the dns spell checker. Then when I get a set of eyes for a minute I keep a list of common mistakes to have them "teach" dns. I've had to do this very infrequently. Of course, I have to wait until the kids are occupied so I can dictate. (grin) Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeffrey Schwartz To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking It helps a great deal. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Jenkins Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:56 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Hello Jeff. Just for clarification there are Dragon NaturallySpeaking standard, Dragon NaturallySpeaking preferred, and dragon naturally speaking professional versions. With the professional version having several different versions for different occupations such as legal addition which would be for lawyers and medical edition for doctors. If you have plans to purchase J-Say in the future I would go ahead and get Dragon NaturallySpeaking professional now. The main difference between Dragon NaturallySpeaking preferred and Dragon NaturallySpeaking professional is Dragon NaturallySpeaking professional allows you or a third party to write your own Dragon commands. J-Say only supports Dragon NaturallySpeaking professional and higher. I hope this helps. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:29 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Chris, Thanks for this thought provoking input. I'm going to have a heck of a time avoiding the ums and ahs. It takes me about three times to get my outgoing message on the answering machine because I can't seem to put three sentences together without using these nervous little mannerisms of speech. A number of you have referred to Dragon Naturally Speaking. I've been advised to pick Professionally Speaking. What are your thoughts on that one? Thanks again, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Jenkins Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:27 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Hello Jeff. Just a few of the things that you will have to get used to while dictating or as follows. The biggest thing is keeping control of the microphone meaning making sure that the microphone is asleep when you are not using it for example when someone comes into your office or cubicle and wants to carry on a conversation with you. I would say the next biggest thing is to learn how to talk without using filler words such as o m, or and. If you are going to be using speech recognition software while on the phone with customers you will have a whole other set of problems to overcome. For example where now you can type and speak to the customer at the same time of course you will not be able to speak to dragon naturally speaking and the customer at the same time. You should at least take all this into consideration before making an investment into speech recognition software. I will say for me Dragon naturally speaking along with J--Say is the best purchase I ever made. I hope this helps. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:48 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Thanks Pat, If you didn't have to spend a great deal of time teaching it to recognize your voice, where does the learning curve come in? This is for work where I have XP. Do you think that it would be significantly different from Vista with DNS? Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat L Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Jeffrey, I have experimented with DNS 10 and have been very favorably impressed. The speech recognition out of the box without training was remarkably good. I was able to dictate a few test e-mails with surprisingly good results. However, there is a steep learning curve to master this feature rich program. The program is cheap - I was able to buy it from Nuance on a promotion for around $50. If you are willing to make the investment and devote time to the learning process, it might work for you. As of now, I can't afford the time to use it consistently, but that may not be true for you. HTH, Pat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:06 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Hi Jeffrey, I've never used DNS with Jaws, but I did have some success with the built in speech recognition in Windows Vista, using System Access. HTH Russell From: Jeffrey Schwartz Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:41 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: jaws and dragon naturally speaking I'm in my early sixties and between contact sports when young and sighted and decades of copious typing, I fear that I have developed arthritis in my hands. I'd like to use Dragon. The party line from FS is that one can only do it with Dragon Professional and the T and T consultancy intermediate program. I believe that I have heard one or two on this list say that they use Dragon Naturally Speaking directly with jaws. I'd be grateful for any feedback on this issue