RE: jaws 7

  • From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:45:37 -0800

Um how are you going to use a menu with out the arrow keys?  So yes you
do use the arrow keys after pressing alt.

jim grimsby 
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:26 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws 7


Judith
See my earlier message here. You do not use your arrow keys or your tab
key 
to get to basics. You instead use your alt key and then you can locate
it 
from there.

At 11:03 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
>Yardbird, I understand about the retina, that's where my visual problem

>stems from.  Can you tell me how to get to basics?  I brought the jaws 
>window up with jaws key j and then tried accessing it through the desk 
>top. Both times I got the window but couldn't arrow around in the box 
>to get to basics.  Judith
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:54 AM
>Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
> > Well, thanks.  I can see in my blurry way that the program interface

> > is on the screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central 
> > vision (the
>part
> > of the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of which 
> > I can
> > do) to see that the shark logo  is decorating it.  So when Judith
referred
> > only to the logo, and didn't just say that the  Main Jaws interface
window
> > was what she meant, I didn't know what to think.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> > the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when the 
> > window is actually on the screen, instead of the system tray.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> > >I'm confused.  Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the screen.

> > >I imagined that to be some sort of company design.  Are you saying 
> > >that
>what
> > >she's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus?  it just 
> > >seems
>fair
> > >to explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of 
> > >the program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run like

> > >her other applications, so that it's always available the way Word 
> > >is, or made to
>run
> > >in the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from 
> > >the
>system
> > >tray or by pressing Insert J.
> > >
> > >Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a 
> > >different matter, of course... loo or that was
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM
> > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Judith
> > >
> > >Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen, 
> > >if you haven't figured this out already on your own doing some 
> > >searching. go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then 
> > >basics... when you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box with

> > >a few
>checkboxes.
> > >the one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray.  Check 
> > >this box. then go through the options and set things how you want 
> > >them. If you're unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert

> > >plus f1 and you'll
>hear
> > >a description of the current item and what it does. then press ok.
> > >
> > >Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again.  To 
> > >get JAWS to run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window

> > >off the screen but still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with 
> > >insert plus f4 and
>then
> > >restart JAWS.  By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon 
> > >your desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press 
> > >windows key plus
>m
> > >and then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0
> > >Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to 
> > >close it.  Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7, 
> > >which you
>should
> > >be, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few 
> > >seconds, JAWS should load up again, and then you should be able to 
> > >access everything in your JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. 
> > >it'll pop up your different JAWS menu items in a context menu.
> > >
> > >Hope this helps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Well, For the most part it is working.  However, I keep getting 
> > > >the
>jaws
> > > >logo up on the screen.  Is there a way to avoid this?
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's what I had read--there is a separate version for 
> > > > > Windows 98.
>As
> > > > > I
> > > >have said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this 
> > > >first. Thanks for that, Chris.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi
> > > > > There is  *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows 
> > > > > 98. In fact with the CD Judith has, the proper version is 
> > > > > installed based on the operating system being used.
> > > > > So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at
all, the
>cd
> > > >just
> > > > > installs the proper version. nice!
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > > > >Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that 
> > > > > >version 7 was NOT meant for Windows 98.
> > > > > >You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on your
system
> > > > > >though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on
that.
>Also,
> > > > > >Version 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should 
> > > > > >really
>know
> > > > > >a
> > > > > >little more about your system before giving a definitive 
> > > > > >answer. I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 
> > > > > >and control
>alt
> > > > > >j
> > > >for
> > > > > >versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
> > > > > >I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not 
> > > > > >experienced many of
> > > >the
> > > > > >problems others have spoken of.
> > > > > >I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not 
> > > > > >recommended for Windows 98.
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.  
> > > > > >Quite
> > > >honestly,
> > > > > >the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me 
> > > > > >to collect material on the clipboard and paste it all when I 
> > > > > >was ready.  The other
> > > >new
> > > > > >feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been a
>problem
> > > > > >for
> > > >me.
> > > > > >One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on 
> > > > > >windows 98. Would this pose a problem if I decided to install

> > > > > >the program? Thanks,
> > > > > >Judith
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at 
> > > > > > > listing the improvements than any of us could be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Web 
> > > > > > > Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > > >http://www.ogts.net
> > > > > > > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: 
> > > > > > > http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7?  So 
> > > > > > > > far its
>2
> > > >against
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > 1 for.  Still thinking on it.  Judith
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Really, now.  One doesn't have to mutually exclude the 
> > > > > > > >> other? I
> > > >think
> > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > >> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if 
> > > > > > > >> there are areas
> > > > > >where
> > > > > > > >> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense 
> > > > > > > >> to
>keep
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > >older
> > > > > > > >> version there as a fall-back.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and 
> > > > > > > >> I've not
> > > > > >encountered
> > > > > > > >> many of the problems that others have.  Obviously, 
> > > > > > > >> there are
> > > > > >differences
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> system performance due to different display adapters,
>installed
> > > > > >drivers,
> > > > > > > >> installed software and so forth.  But, I find that JFW 
> > > > > > > >> 7 performs
> > > > > >better
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other 
> > > > > > > >> additions such
> > > >as
> > > > > > > >> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual
>clipboard
> > > > > >feature,
> > > > > > > >> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the

> > > > > > > >> fallback
> > > > > >ability
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> your version of choice.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Steve
> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Heya Judith,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after 
> > > > > > > >> many
> > > >frustrations
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >> 7
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> cheers,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Jim from Oz
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>   From: Judith Bron
> > > > > > > >>   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >>   Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > > > > > >>   Subject: jaws 7
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>   Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in the

> > > > > > > >> mail. As I
> > > > > > > > alluded
> > > > > > > >> to earlier I haven't been following all the complaints 
> > > > > > > >> about this
> > > > > >newest
> > > > > > > >> version because I didn't have it and was content with 
> > > > > > > >> my jaws 5.1.
> > > > > >Should
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1?  Is it 
> > > > > > > >> as
>easy
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > >use
> > > > > >as
> > > > > > > >> 5.1?  Thanks, Judith
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >>
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