Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox

  • From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:45:34 -0500

Yardbird,

I don't want to torture fellow listers with this thread, so this will be my 
last word on it.  Yes, you alt-tab between an open message and the rest of OE.  
However, when a message isn't open, it happens that you can tab or shift-tab 
into the address book in the manner I previously described.  I don't like to do 
it that way, preferring the control-shift-b shortcut to avoid confusion.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yardbird 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox


  Adrian,
  I know that, Adrian.  I mean, that alt tab takes you our into another open 
app.  But, you know, it also enables you to cycle around within what you're 
doing only in OE, as I've discovered.  For instance, if while I'm writing this 
reply in an open message area, and hear an incoming mail sound and wish to see 
what sort of email just arrived, I can simply alt tab (yes, that's what I said) 
and, even if I have to go through some intervening visits to other open apps if 
they come up first, I'll also come to the Outlook Express Inbox, pristine as 
before, and then I can examine my incoming email and see what it was that I 
just received.  I can even open the message and read it and, if I wish, leave 
it open and alt tab back to the reply I'm writing to you at this moment.

  Try it.  That is what I was referring to.

  Finally, Adrian, I don't know what program you're suing, but in the way I 
have Outlook Express set up, to display the Inbox files list view on the right 
side and the Outlook Express folders tree view on the left (this is what 
displays when you set OE up to open in the Inbox, a very standard 
configuration, perhaps the default), tabbing and shift tabbing only take you 
back and forth between the files list view with the messages in it and the 
folders tree view in the other pane of the window.  That's it.  If the Address 
book is opened, it displays atop the main OE screen.  It isn't part of it.

  Also, I just alt tabbed around out of this message in progress to the main 
Inbox screen again, launched the Address Book with my usual hotkey Control 
Shift B as in boy, and then experimented with pressing tab and shift tab to see 
if they did something different from what I'm accustomed to their doing.  but 
no, all you can do in the address book with the tab key and shift tab is to go 
back and forth between that initial edit field where you may type the name of 
someone whose address you'd like to be taken to, or tab into the full list of 
names and addresses.  Back and forth.  That's all tab and shift tab do within 
the address book.  They don't put you into any part of Outlook Express, 
including the Inbox, and bring you back again to the Address Book.

  If I've misunderstood your description, please explain.
  Im box hat shf----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adrian Spratt 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox


  It is possible to tab and shift-tab, not alt-tab, into the address book.  For 
example, a single shift-tab from the folders list does it.  Alt-tab takes you 
into another application.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Yardbird 


    Hi Donna,

    don't you mean alt -space bar_ x, not the control key?  Also, what you can 
maximize with this command isn't "the Inbox," or the entire Outlook Express 
interface on your screen, but just one thing-- an open Outlook Express message. 
 When you come upon the listing of a message in your Inbox list view, and click 
it open, it generally opens in a smallish window that leaves a lot of other 
screen elements of the Outlook Express interface showing around it. When you 
maximize that open message, it expands to fill all the space in the display 
except for the Outlook Express menu line at the top of the screen, and the 
status line at the bottom.  This helps to allow Jaws to read the message 
accurately, and for you to perform editing and writing functions accurately in 
a reply.

    But in any case, the Address book shouldn't just pop up out of nowhere.  
It's not always sitting there as part of the Outlook Express interface.  To 
make it appear, you have to call it up either from the OE menu or with the 
hotkey command Control shift B.

    So, what this sounds like is that maybe the Address Book is popping up on 
its own, mysteriously, and grabbing Jaws's focus.  Now, here's something I 
wouldn't have thought of:  Maybe this person launches the Address Book and, 
after doing so, never closes it by pressing Escape, but just cycles back into 
the main Outlook Express screen (not just the Inbox, but any feature of Outlook 
Express) using Alt Tab?  And somehow the Address Book reappears by some 
accident, now and then?  I don't know, that's still mysterious to me.

    Anyway, hope it was of some help to explain the window maximizing thing.


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