Re: Yahoo and the Graphic
- From: Bruce Toews <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:35:52 -0600 (CST)
It's the misspelling of someone who's been sick as a dog for the last four
days but is still trying to do his job. I will start putting people on
moderator status if they continue to choose to ignore the rule on subject
lines and/or the one on off-topic posts. We already had one grammar
checker on this list, we don't need a spell checker too.
Bruce
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, trouble wrote:
> What's puppting? not in dictionary.
>
> At 10:10 PM 1/28/04 -0600, you wrote:
> >Look folks, I will say this one more time.
> >
> >First, empty subject lines are not appropriate for the list. Second, the
> >discussion of the graphic is not appropriate. I will start puppting people
> >of moderator status if this thread is not immediately stopped.
> >
> >Bruce
> >
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> >
> >On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Grant Hardy wrote:
> >
> > > I totally don't want to criticize Pickrell and others for the valuable
> > > advice we get here. But Yahoo!'s objective for their word in the picture
> > > is
> > > so that a machine cannot automatically register for a Yahoo! account.
> > > 0spam's method, though easier for us, is not secure and a machine could
> > > still register for a Yahoo! account if they used this method. Here is the
> > > response I got back:
> > >
> > > Hello Grant,
> > >
> > > Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Account Services.
> > >
> > > At this time Yahoo! does not have a means of bypassing the word
> > > verification image for visually impaired users, aside from contacting
> > > Customer Care. We are exploring other alternatives, but unfortunately,
> > > some of those alternatives recreate the very problem we are trying to
> > > solve. We are aware of your concern and we want you to know that we are
> > > currently working on this problem.
> > >
> > > During account registration, visually impaired users are directed to the
> > > following "feedback" form:
> > >
> > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/edit/cgi_access
> > >
> > > The URL for this form is provided in hidden text on the registration
> > > form that is machine-readable but not visible on the page. After the
> > > user has completed the form, a Yahoo! representative will call the user
> > > and complete the registration process over the phone. The user will
> > > also receive a response containing a toll free number specifically
> > > dedicated to registration for visually impaired users. We are working
> > > on streamlining this process for faster turn around time and greater
> > > convenience for the user.
> > >
> > > When joining or creating a Yahoo! Group, below the word verification
> > > image there is a link that says "If you can not see this image click
> > > here." Clicking on this link will enable a popup window with an
> > > explanation of the word verification image as well as white-on-white
> > > text that points visually impaired users to the following feedback form:
> > >
> > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_vi
> > >
> > > After submitting the form, the user will be contacted by a Yahoo! Groups
> > > Customer Care representative via email for the information necessary to
> > > complete the process.
> > >
> > > You are free to distribute the above URLs to anyone who can benefit from
> > > them, and we encourage you to do so. However, we do want to mention
> > > that we hid the text on the pages because we found a number of users
> > > were taking advantage of a service meant only for our visually impaired
> > > users. That caused a delay in helping the very users the feedback forms
> > > were intended for.
> > >
> > > We hope you find the above solution workable for you and other visually
> > > impaired users, and we hope they do register and take advantage of all
> > > the features Yahoo! has to offer.
> > >
> > > Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Customer Care
> > >
> > > For assistance with all Yahoo! services, please visit:
> > >
> > > http://help.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Andrew Edgcumbe
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:01 PM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re:
> > >
> > > Hi Rebecca and list members
> > >
> > > I did complain once about this issue.
> > >
> > > Yahoo said that they did have some complaints about the picture.
> > >
> > >
> > > If anybody wants the email address to complain to yahoo please email me
> > > off
> > > list.
> > >
> > > I feel if everybody on this list complains maybe they will listen.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Blind College Students (E-mail)"
> > > <BlindVIcollegeStudents@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Blindtech (E-mail)"
> > > <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: "Jfwlite (E-mail)" <JFWlite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS and employment
> > > (E-mail)" <jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:14 PM
> > > Subject: FW:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi folks. Here is the response I got from 0 spam along with my question.
> > > >
> > > > These guys seem like good people.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeff Anderson [mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:12 AM
> > > > To: Pickrell, Rebecca M.
> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The link is white as well as the background, so it can not be seen by
> > > > regular people. I could try to contact Yahoo and Hotmail about
> > > implementing
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Anderson
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <support@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:55 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi. I want to compliment 0 spam on its varification method.
> > > > >
> > > > > The link that blind people can click on which then allows the
> > > varification
> > > > > code to be emailed to the sender is wonderful. I wish Yahoo and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > along with a number of others would employ your method. As it stands
> > > now,
> > > > > Yahoo's method is of no help since they do not respond to phone calls
> > > and
> > > > > email and Microsoft's varification (an audio of the word that needs to
> > > be
> > > > > entered) is so garbled as to be nearly useless.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't mind sharing with me, how do you make the link so that
> > only
> > > > > screen-readers can use it?
> > > > >
> > > > > If this information is proprietory, would you mind sharing your idea
> > > with
> > > > > engineers at Yahoo and Microsoft?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Rebecca Pickrell
> > > > > phone: 703-633-8300 x4582
> > > > > email: rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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