Re: Yahoo and the Graphic

What's puppting? not in dictionary.

At 10:10 PM 1/28/04 -0600, you wrote:
>Look folks, I will say this one more time.
>
>First, empty subject lines are not appropriate for the list. Second, the
>discussion of the graphic is not appropriate. I will start puppting people
>of moderator status if this thread is not immediately stopped.
>
>Bruce
>
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>On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Grant Hardy wrote:
>
> > I totally don't want to criticize Pickrell and others for the valuable
> > advice we get here. But Yahoo!'s objective for their word in the picture is
> > so that a machine cannot automatically register for a Yahoo! account.
> > 0spam's method, though easier for us, is not secure and a machine could
> > still register for a Yahoo! account if they used this method.  Here is the
> > response I got back:
> >
> > Hello Grant,
> >
> > Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Account Services.
> >
> > At this time Yahoo! does not have a means of bypassing the word
> > verification image for visually impaired users, aside from contacting
> > Customer Care.  We are exploring other alternatives, but unfortunately,
> > some of those alternatives recreate the very problem we are trying to
> > solve.  We are aware of your concern and we want you to know that we are
> > currently working on this problem.
> >
> > During account registration, visually impaired users are directed to the
> > following "feedback" form:
> >
> >    http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/edit/cgi_access
> >
> > The URL for this form is provided in hidden text on the registration
> > form that is machine-readable but not visible on the page.  After the
> > user has completed the form, a Yahoo! representative will call the user
> > and complete the registration process over the phone.  The user will
> > also receive a response containing a toll free number specifically
> > dedicated to registration for visually impaired users.  We are working
> > on streamlining this process for faster turn around time and greater
> > convenience for the user.
> >
> > When joining or creating a Yahoo! Group, below the word verification
> > image there is a link that says "If you can not see this image click
> > here."  Clicking on this link will enable a popup window with an
> > explanation of the word verification image as well as white-on-white
> > text that points visually impaired users to the following feedback form:
> >
> >    http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_vi
> >
> > After submitting the form, the user will be contacted by a Yahoo! Groups
> > Customer Care representative via email for the information necessary to
> > complete the process.
> >
> > You are free to distribute the above URLs to anyone who can benefit from
> > them, and we encourage you to do so.  However, we do want to mention
> > that we hid the text on the pages because we found a number of users
> > were taking advantage of a service meant only for our visually impaired
> > users.  That caused a delay in helping the very users the feedback forms
> > were intended for.
> >
> > We hope you find the above solution workable for you and other visually
> > impaired users, and we hope they do register and take advantage of all
> > the features Yahoo! has to offer.
> >
> > Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Yahoo! Customer Care
> >
> > For assistance with all Yahoo! services, please visit:
> >
> >    http://help.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
> Behalf Of
> > Andrew Edgcumbe
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:01 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re:
> >
> > Hi Rebecca and list members
> >
> > I  did complain once about this issue.
> >
> > Yahoo said that they did have some complaints about the picture.
> >
> >
> > If anybody wants the email address to complain to yahoo please email me off
> > list.
> >
> > I feel if everybody on this list complains maybe they will listen.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > To: "Blind College Students (E-mail)"
> > <BlindVIcollegeStudents@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Blindtech (E-mail)"
> > <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "Jfwlite (E-mail)" <JFWlite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS and employment
> > (E-mail)" <jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:14 PM
> > Subject: FW:
> >
> >
> > > Hi folks. Here is the response I got from 0 spam along with my question.
> > >
> > > These guys seem like good people.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Anderson [mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:12 AM
> > > To: Pickrell, Rebecca M.
> > > Subject: Re:
> > >
> > >
> > > The link is white as well as the background, so it can not be seen by
> > > regular people.  I could try to contact Yahoo and Hotmail about
> > implementing
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jeff Anderson
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <support@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:55 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi. I want to compliment 0 spam on its varification method.
> > > >
> > > > The link that blind people can click on which then allows the
> > varification
> > > > code to be emailed to the sender is wonderful.  I wish Yahoo and
> > Microsoft
> > > > along with a number of others would employ your method. As it stands
> > now,
> > > > Yahoo's method is of no help since they do not respond to phone calls
> > and
> > > > email and Microsoft's varification (an audio of the word that needs to
> > be
> > > > entered) is so garbled as to be nearly useless.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't mind sharing with me, how do you make the link so that 
> only
> > > > screen-readers can use it?
> > > >
> > > > If this information is proprietory, would you mind sharing your idea
> > with
> > > > engineers at Yahoo and Microsoft?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca Pickrell
> > > > phone: 703-633-8300 x4582
> > > > email: rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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