Gary, Same build of jaws. I am using Word 2003, I forget if you and Cher are using this or something earlier? Could it be related to your punctuation setting? Maybe try setting punctuation to all? Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:32 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Word-showing paragraph marks Chip, Which build of JAWS 9.0 are you using? I have JAWS 9.0.2169. I turned everything having to do with detection on in Verbosity, and the PC cursor still won't announce the space and paragraph markers. I also changed to Screen Layout from Simple Layout. I never noticed that this announcement was missing in JAWS 9.0 because I never turn these markers on. As I mentioned in a previous message, I can't get them spoken in JAWS 10 with the PC cursor either. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: RE: Word-showing paragraph marks I can get my jaws 9 to read my word 2003 paragraph marks using pc cursor. Could it be because my document presentation is set to screen layout perhaps? I didn't play around with all the verbosity options, could it be related to the page and section break option, which I also have on? Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:03 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Word-showing paragraph marks Hi Cher, Control+Shift+8 does show the markers, and I can read them with the JAWS cursor in both JAWS 9 and JAWS 10 in Word 2003. However, I can't hear them spoken when using the PC cursor in either version. I didn't find anything in the Verbosity menu that would change this behavior. I still have JAWS 8 on my system, and they are spoken with the PC cursor using this JAWS version. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Cher Bosch <mailto:Cher.Bosch@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Word-showing paragraph marks Hey folks- I can't get the toggle key to work anymore or else I can't get JAWS to read the paragraph marks etc. Is control-shift-8 (on the number row) the toggle to switch on/off the space marks and paragraph marks? The tool bar shows that the 'Show All' button is pressed when I do this, but nothing changes on the screen. What am I doing wrong? Using Word XP/2002 and latest Jaws9. Thanks. Thanks for any ideas. Cher