Hey, that's what it seems to be called when I Googled it, too. Nothing to apologize about. But still, from what I can see, it's not clear which edition of the dictionary this actually is, and who published it. I'll keep looking and learning. Meantime, the new version of the Houghton Mifflin American Heritage really does need all those tricks I think it was you who described. And honestly, with all due respect, I get tired of spending as much time as I sometimes have to fooling around with my blind technology instead of concentrating on productive things it's meant to enable me to do. So if I have to take a short course in customizing things about silent frames and the jaws cursor and all that, I'll likely pass and try a more accessible dictionary. No, I don't mean Word Web. that isn't what I need, though I'm fully aware it's convenient and adequate and, yes, free and so many people appreciate it. That's fine. I'm just not coming from the same place, as we say. Thanks a lot, Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Talking American Heritage YardBird, The "talking american heritage" dictionary is not a self voicing application. <smile I know where you are coming from and I should have included the full name in my post. Pranav on Thursday 11/10/2005 07:16 AM, Yardbird said: But Pranav, you see, if they call one "the talking American Heritage Dictionary," that's a brand name, which means it isn't another edition of the dictionary. I need to know which edition of the American Heritage any of these actually are. Thanks for explaining. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Talking American Heritage Yardbird, The American Heritage dictionary speaks the pronunciation of words. It is not a self voicing application. Pranav on Wednesday 11/9/2005 10:13 AM, Yardbird said: I've just been googling around to find some descriptive information about this product, but so far there's one thing I can't figure out. Is this actually a self-voicing piece of software,in the sense that Open Book is? I read a university library's instructions about how to use the library copy of it, but all it referred to was what the user would see on the screen. These control buttons up here, this field for showing definitions there, and so forth. Not a word about it speaking as it displays. Can anyone who uses this product explain how it works, in that sense? Does it chatter away speaking everything you type and read in it, conflicting with Jaws? If so, do you have to turn off Jaws while you use it? Also, if it is self voicing, why was it developed? To help people with cognitive problems so they could see the words and definitions but be helped to get them in mind better because the computer spoke everything aloud? thanks. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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