Some of this is helpful in that it gives me a basic understanding where I had none, before, and also helps me to discuss things like this with the dear friend who helps me with my most daunting computer issues, and is an I T professional. So, many thanks. And james, if you're giving me deMerits, please tell me (off list, if you prefer) where that puts me and how close I am to being kicked off your list. It's good to know where one stands. Thanks everyone. vul neuch catasjnderstanding of----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Sending the dump (was page that reboots my computer) Hi yardbird, No its a file that windows creates when you have a blue screen. The mini dump file is 64k and is the default dump windows creates. Its in a folder called mini dump. You can't really do anything with these files without the analyser utility from microsoft. It reads these files and tries to determine which video driver cause the blue screen or windows stop error as its also called. With my crashes on this machine the dump returns probable driver jawsvid.dll offset bb03 While to the average person this makes no sense, but its telling me that the crashes are to do with the jaws video hook. And from what I have determined from others here is that jaws 7.0 and 7.1 do not like nvidia video cards. I hope some of this is clear. I must admit I don't know a lot about it either and have to rely on my tech friend for what it all means in english. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Sending the dump (was page that reboots my computer) Rick, I know less than you may think about this. I don't know what a "dump," is, actually, let alone a mini dump. Is this a way to say "screen image," maybe? And if so, what do you mean, there's a special folder for them (and why mini instead of regular?), then how are they created? Is there something automatically copying an image of every screen during a session to this folder, under a procession of filenames? Or do you mean there's a process by which you create a screen dump and file it, or...? Hope you realize how much of this is simply new to me, not just a detail or two. thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Sending the dump (was page that reboots my computer) Hi, There is a folder in the windows folder that holds the mini dump files. i email them to a tech friend of mine and he has a program from microsoft that analisys the file to try to find the cause of the blue screen crash. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Sending the dump (was page that reboots my computer) When I have a blue screen crash, I wish I could capture whatever all that text is on the fatal screen and send it to whoever might be able to help me avoid a recurrence. From back when I operated my computer with normal vision, I remember the Printscreen command, whose key is still on the computer, of course. But is this what you do? Or what? And if so, how do you do it? If not, what? Instructions will be very appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: Re: page that reboots my computer Hi, It does the same thing here. Its a blue screen crash. I will send the dump to my buddy for analysis but I will bet money it comes back to jawsvid.dll Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Beech" <a.beech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 4:29 AM Subject: RE: page that reboots my computer G'day, Yup I can most certainly confirm. It goes down in a flaming heap. Both JFW 7.0 and the latest 7.1 public beta exhibit the same symptoms Cheers. AB -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bobcat Sent: Monday, 19 June 2006 5:51 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: page that reboots my computer This page causes my computer to reboot only when Jaws 7.0 or the latest 7.1 beta is running. It works fine with WindowEyes. I wonder if anyone else can duplicate this. Moving to the table on the page does it every time with the beta. 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