Dave, I respectfully disagree. I'd just as soon see someone take the time to write a more detailed answer rather than seeing ten messages covering the same topic because the first few didn't go into enough depth to be helpful for the questioner. Steve -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx