RE: Jaws&speech recognition?

  • From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:21:19 -0500

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Yadiel Sotomayor
Sent: February 4, 2011 11:14 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?

?TandT is no longer in business?  Now that is a bomer

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From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:25 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?

> Peter,
>
> Not viable? It's a complete solution to bridge between JAWS and a
> mainstream
> speech input application, Dragon Naturally Speaking. Why would it not be
> good for a home system?
>
> If J-Say is only suited for a work environment and for work access, then
> one
> could say the same for JAWS itself, where the "J" stands for "Job".
>
> I appreciate that the combination of J-Say and Dragon Naturally Speaking
> would require a chunk of lucre, but to simply dismiss this solution
> offhand
> would suggest that we also dismiss Openbook and JAWS and Magix for any
> home
> use, as well.
>
> And I do recall that initial purchases of JAWS or Openbook do also require
> a
> chunk of the aforementioned lucre.
>
> At least J-Say is alive and supported, and sorry that T&T is no longer in
> business. I do recall seeing them linked to the FS web site in past years.
>
> Dave
> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:14
> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>
>
> That's not really a viable options for most people for home use, only for
> those who need it in the workplace using Access To Work.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farfar Carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:09 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>
> How about J-Say?
>
> http://www.ngtvoice.com/products/software/tandt/j-say/
>
> Dave
> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 09:56
> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>
>
> T & T Consultancies did have a programme called J-Vist which did exactly
> that but by the looks of it it's not been continued. Shame as I might have
> actually gone for that myself.
>
> Peter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Londa Peterson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:39 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>
> Thanks Gary,  that helps a lot.  I'm going to try it with another
> screenreader that does have some support built in.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:22 PM
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>
>> Londa,
>> Do you mean the sentences you are supposed to speak in order to set up
>> the
>> microphone?  I had to use the JAWS cursor to read them since they are not
>> in an edit field.  I don't have a Braille display, but I would suppose
>> that if you have your display following the PC cursor, you wouldn't be
>> able to read the sentences.
>>
>> I'm not really sure just how practical Windows Speech Recognition would
>> really be without any direct JAWS scripting support.  You can hear what
>> words are being put into MS Word by the program by switching from
>> highlighted to all with Insert+s, but you sometimes get a lot of extra
>> speech when other events take place on the screen.  The biggest problem
>> is
>> with the corrections dialog.  When you say "correct that" to correct an
>> error, JAWS won't read the choices in the dialog unless you have JAWS
>> speaking all text written to the screen.  Even then, JAWS doesn't speak
>> the numbers beside each selection, and you can't get the selections
>> spelled.  If 2 selections sound alike, having them spelled is necessary.
>>
>> What we really need is scripting support for Windows Speech Recognition.
>> I
>> thought that Brian Hartgen, the author of J-Say, was going to produce a
>> less expensive version of his scripts to give us this support, but I
>> haven't heard any more about the project lately.  It's unfortunate that
>> JAWS doesn't support Windows Speech Recognition because it does work
>> rather well even without training.
>>
>> Gary King
>> w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>
>>
>>>I actually tried to do this a couple of days ago.  I couldn't read the
>>>sentences on the screen even with my Braille display.  Any ideas?
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:08 PM
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>
>>>> Cy,
>>>> I think someone has already answered your question about starting
>>>> speech
>>>> recognition in Windows 7 by typing speech into the search box on the
>>>> Start Menu.  I played around with the program a little last night and
>>>> was surprised at how well it worked.  You need to have a microphone
>>>> connected to try it, preferably a headset-microphone combination.  I
>>>> was
>>>> using a Logitech H330 USB Headset that was on sale at Amazon recently
>>>> for slightly over $20. Its only drawback is that it doesn't have a
>>>> volume control on the headset, and music quality isn't as good as other
>>>> headsets I've heard. It does work well for voice recognition though.
>>>>
>>>> You will first get a wizard that will set up the microphone for you.  I
>>>> repeated the 2 sentences displayed on the screen, and the level
>>>> apparently was adjusted correctly.  On another screen you get the
>>>> chance
>>>> to choose whether you want speech recognition to load at startup and
>>>> whether you want to activate it with a voice command or manually.  I
>>>> chose manually because of my bad experience with a certain
>>>> voice-operated clock.  You can also activate a Help button to get a
>>>> list
>>>> of useful commands.  You're invited to print these out to a reference
>>>> card, but virtualizing the window and copying them to the clipboard for
>>>> pasting into notepad or Word would probably be more useful.  I was also
>>>> invited to take a tutorial, but I skipped it since I didn't know how
>>>> well it worked with JAWS.
>>>>
>>>> I only had time to do a brief test, but I was surprised that I had no
>>>> speech recognition errors.  Using some of the suggested commands, I was
>>>> able to open and close the Recycle Bin on the Desktop.  I then opened
>>>> Word and dictated a couple of sentences.  Next, I closed Word and said
>>>> "Don't Save" when the dialog appeared.  That's it!  I'll play a little
>>>> more when I have the time.
>>>>
>>>> I have also worked with Dragon Dictate with J-Say and JAWS in the past.
>>>> The main difference using JAWS with Windows 7 Speech Recognition will
>>>> be
>>>> the lack of automatic feedback and the inability to give JAWS commands
>>>> with speech.  Making corrections will probably be more difficult as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Speech recognition should be a lot of fun to play with.  What else does
>>>> an old retired rehab engineer have to do but play?
>>>>
>>>> Gary King
>>>> w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:35 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Unless I have missed something I have not seen either how to find the
>>>>> speech
>>>>> recognition in W7 or the key combination to get it going.
>>>>> This really does sound like something I could use.
>>>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Alan Dicey
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:29 AM
>>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>> I have a XP-Home machine running JAWS 11 latest, and I would also like
>>>>> to
>>>>> know that myself!
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the feature up and running accidentally and it startled me so
>>>>> much I
>>>>> closed it!
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> But I would like to experiment with it!
>>>>> So if some kind person can tell me how to bring the voice recognition
>>>>> up in
>>>>> XP, I would appreciate it!
>>>>>
>>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> Miami, Florida
>>>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>>>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Smart Eze" <smart.eze@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you possibly let us know with which key combinations to get it on
>>>>>> XP
>>>>>> machines?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Nickus de Vos
>>>>>> Sent: 27 January 2011 16:19
>>>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xp has this funktion but it doesn't work half as good as win7s, it
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> doesn't have the ablitty to learn like win7. -original message-
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>>>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Date: 27/01/2011 14:58
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>>> I accidentally hit a key combination the other day, I am using
>>>>>> XP-Home
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> JAWS 11.
>>>>>> I swore, before I in panic, did an Alt F4 to shut it, it said
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> about Speech recognition.
>>>>>> Does XP or JAWS 11 have a similar program built in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never heard of it before, but, no I did hear it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> Miami, Florida
>>>>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>>>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>>>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>>>>>> United
>>>>>> States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>>>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "JFW-List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:26 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Jaws&speech recognition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello there;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> has anyone tried the speech recognition program built in windows 7?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was playing with the program last night.
>>>>>>> once I got my microphone setup,
>>>>>>> I was able to,
>>>>>>> 1, speak to my computer, and issue voice commands, such as, go to
>>>>>>> desktop, say such things as,
>>>>>>> Microsoft word, then jaws would read the icon,
>>>>>>> then I would say, enter, and yes?
>>>>>>> word would open,
>>>>>>> now, I can dictate text, and automatically the text would be on the
>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>> you can open, close save, with your voice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> very interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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