Re: Jaws&speech recognition?

Thanks Gary, that helps a lot. I'm going to try it with another screenreader that does have some support built in.


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From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:22 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?

Londa,
Do you mean the sentences you are supposed to speak in order to set up the microphone? I had to use the JAWS cursor to read them since they are not in an edit field. I don't have a Braille display, but I would suppose that if you have your display following the PC cursor, you wouldn't be able to read the sentences.

I'm not really sure just how practical Windows Speech Recognition would really be without any direct JAWS scripting support. You can hear what words are being put into MS Word by the program by switching from highlighted to all with Insert+s, but you sometimes get a lot of extra speech when other events take place on the screen. The biggest problem is with the corrections dialog. When you say "correct that" to correct an error, JAWS won't read the choices in the dialog unless you have JAWS speaking all text written to the screen. Even then, JAWS doesn't speak the numbers beside each selection, and you can't get the selections spelled. If 2 selections sound alike, having them spelled is necessary.

What we really need is scripting support for Windows Speech Recognition. I thought that Brian Hartgen, the author of J-Say, was going to produce a less expensive version of his scripts to give us this support, but I haven't heard any more about the project lately. It's unfortunate that JAWS doesn't support Windows Speech Recognition because it does work rather well even without training.

Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?


I actually tried to do this a couple of days ago. I couldn't read the sentences on the screen even with my Braille display. Any ideas?

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From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:08 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?

Cy,
I think someone has already answered your question about starting speech recognition in Windows 7 by typing speech into the search box on the Start Menu. I played around with the program a little last night and was surprised at how well it worked. You need to have a microphone connected to try it, preferably a headset-microphone combination. I was using a Logitech H330 USB Headset that was on sale at Amazon recently for slightly over $20. Its only drawback is that it doesn't have a volume control on the headset, and music quality isn't as good as other headsets I've heard. It does work well for voice recognition though.

You will first get a wizard that will set up the microphone for you. I repeated the 2 sentences displayed on the screen, and the level apparently was adjusted correctly. On another screen you get the chance to choose whether you want speech recognition to load at startup and whether you want to activate it with a voice command or manually. I chose manually because of my bad experience with a certain voice-operated clock. You can also activate a Help button to get a list of useful commands. You're invited to print these out to a reference card, but virtualizing the window and copying them to the clipboard for pasting into notepad or Word would probably be more useful. I was also invited to take a tutorial, but I skipped it since I didn't know how well it worked with JAWS.

I only had time to do a brief test, but I was surprised that I had no speech recognition errors. Using some of the suggested commands, I was able to open and close the Recycle Bin on the Desktop. I then opened Word and dictated a couple of sentences. Next, I closed Word and said "Don't Save" when the dialog appeared. That's it! I'll play a little more when I have the time.

I have also worked with Dragon Dictate with J-Say and JAWS in the past. The main difference using JAWS with Windows 7 Speech Recognition will be the lack of automatic feedback and the inability to give JAWS commands with speech. Making corrections will probably be more difficult as well.

Speech recognition should be a lot of fun to play with. What else does an old retired rehab engineer have to do but play?

Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: Jaws&speech recognition?


Hi,
Unless I have missed something I have not seen either how to find the speech
recognition in W7 or the key combination to get it going.
This really does sound like something I could use.
Cy, The Anasazi

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Alan Dicey
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:29 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Jaws&speech recognition?

Hello Friends,
I have a XP-Home machine running JAWS 11 latest, and I would also like to
know that myself!

I got the feature up and running accidentally and it startled me so much I
closed it!
LOL!

But I would like to experiment with it!
So if some kind person can tell me how to bring the voice recognition up in
XP, I would appreciate it!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


----- Original Message ----- From: "Smart Eze" <smart.eze@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws&speech recognition?


Can you possibly let us know with which key combinations to get it on XP
machines?

Thanks and regards.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: 27 January 2011 16:19
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?



Xp has this funktion but it doesn't work half as good as win7s, it also
doesn't have the ablitty to learn like win7. -original message-
Subject: Re: Jaws&speech recognition?
From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/01/2011 14:58

Hello Friends,
I accidentally hit a key combination the other day, I am using XP-Home and
JAWS 11.
I swore, before I in panic, did an Alt F4 to shut it, it said something
about Speech recognition.
Does XP or JAWS 11 have a similar program built in?

Never heard of it before, but, no I did hear it.

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!" United
States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "JFW-List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:26 AM
Subject: Jaws&speech recognition?


Hello there;

has anyone tried the speech recognition program built in windows 7?

I was playing with the program last night.
once I got my microphone setup,
I was able to,
1, speak to my computer, and issue voice commands, such as, go to
desktop, say such things as,
Microsoft word, then jaws would read the icon,
then I would say, enter, and yes?
word would open,
now, I can dictate text, and automatically the text would be on the
screen.
you can open, close save, with your voice.

very interesting.


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