RE: Jaws Standard/professional
- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:53:33 -0700
Hi Peter, Ron and list,
This list had a background discussion about this thread about four weeks
ago. The answer at that time was, "it is due to market differentiation."
Just like we have six versions of Vista and five versions of XP, but with
two or three essential markets being targeted, we have the same strategy
here with FS. The "essential markets," then, are these three: consumer/home
use, professional/business and a combination of two/enthusiasts.
Standard/Home versions of Windows, such as XP Home and Vista/7 Home
Basic/Premium, are optimized for home/single-user scenarios, while
pro/business versions including Windows XP Pro and Vista/7 Business (Pro in
7)/Enterprise target corporate/advanced users. Still, enthusiast/top
versions such as XP Tablet PC/Media Center/64-bit and Vista/7 Ultimate
target users who wants to get most out of their computers, such as technical
analysts, multimedia professionals and so forth.
The actual process of authorizing a JAWS version lies with not FS's
practice: rather, it is derived from Winlogin process (Windows Logon service
under Windows kernel) which determines a Windows version. Although FS'
strategy of market differentiation exists, for technical perspective, it is
Windows itself that determines which version of JAWS (Standard or Pro) would
be authorized on a given computer.
As for extras, if you don't want it, then that's okay.
Hope it was helpful.
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Was I too technical for you to understand?
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:14 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws Standard/professional
They only manage to get away with it because most JAWS users will be using a
copy of JAWS purchased by governments, charities and other large
organisations that tend to just pay what htey need to. I paid for my own
copy, as did many people and it annoys me like hell that you have to pay
more for the same thing. It's not like any further development has to go in
to making JAWS work on Pro versions of windows.
Peter
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From: "Ron" <facup1927@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:09 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Jaws Standard/professional
> Nice one mate. Your exactly right. They are taking the piss a little.
>
> My computer adviser who knows a lot about software says, he's never known
> a
> programme that XP home won't be compatible with.
>
> If they are simply doing it for the money factor, and thinking about the
> people they are trying to help, they should be named, mentioned and
> discussed.
>
> Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of DJ
> Sent: 23 July 2009 00:44
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Jaws Standard/professional
>
> That, in my very humble opinion, is still, to this day, a lousy excuse.
> Just because someone else is doing it they should do it? Give me a cotton
> pickin' break. Let's be real here. They're charging more for the so
> called
> Pro version simply because they can, and people and the government
> continue
> to pay the price.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Chris Hallsworth
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:09 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws Standard/professional
>
> Actually, this is correct what FS is doing. If MS is asking us to pay more
> for "professional" features of Windows, why should FS not follow suit?
> There
> are no differences between standard and professional, however you can at
> least authorize JAWS on any supported version of Windows. Also you can buy
> add-ons like Remote Access and the new Tandem Direct.
>
> --
> Chris Hallsworth
> E-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron" <facup1927@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:59 PM
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Jaws Standard/professional
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have used Jaws Standard since version 6 and it has worked with all
>> Windows software. And, having trouble with Vista and IE8, have
>> decided to go back to XP. The XP version I have is professional.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I tried to download Jaws 10, which I had just paid £110 for an up
>> grade, it said it was incompatible. Having phoned FS I was informed I
>> would need to pay another £169 for an upgrade to professional.
>>
>>
>>
>> I asked what I was paying for, like what differences the professional
>> version had, but they were a bit uncertain. They merely said it would
>> work with XP Pro.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why this is and what their reasons are? Why are we
>> paying more for a professional version of Jaws, when it doesn't offer
>> any extras.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any comments/thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
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