Yes, I think in this case, unless you *really* need the features and I = mean all or most of them, Kurzweil and Open Book are a waste of money and FS = and Kurzweil are taking us for suckers because we're willing to pay = exorbadant prices for products when we may only really need a few of the features. = -----Original Message----- From: Dan [mailto:dnkeys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:18 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW-friendly OCR Hi, It's called, Let's Make Money, the American way. In other words. If consumers will pay for it, it will continue to be = sold at the highest price the market will bear. Dan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alexandre Alves T=F4co" <alexandretoco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Re: JFW-friendly OCR > However I believe Openbook grew unecessary because it duplicate > functions already available in windows. For example you can send = e-mail > throught it and it has it's own native speech system. > Of course who already have jaws send e-mails easely with Outlook or = other > e-mail client. It is true also when you think about speech. Who = already have > jaws will not need a ocr with built-in speech. > If you think about the price you will conclude that openbook costs = almost > the same as jaws which is much more feature riched and necessary for = the > blind. I wrote to fs some time ago suggesting a light version of = openbook or > that they could study a special price for those who already have jaws = or > other fs's product. > All companies do this kind of package. I can't understand why Freedom > doesn't. > Any way, I didn't get any feedback from them. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:31 AM > Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR > > > OpenBook offers a feature in which its native speech can be turned = off. > It also lets one switch to the JAWS keyboard layout so the numeric > keypad keystrokes work identically to those in JAWS. > > OB has a ton more useful features than the lower priced OCR packages. > All of these have been careful designed for use by a blind person = rather > than the mainstream audience. Thus, OmniPage may do the OCR nicely = but > it will not contain concepts like templates or other intelligent > features designed to help recognize not just the text but the = document > itself. OpenBook also gives the user a very convenient way of = scanning > documents and moving them back and forth to their notetaker, reading > Grade 2 books and even converting the scanned image into a BRF file. > > OB and K1000 are more expensive because the market is much smaller. = We > spend an awful lot in usability testing and research and development = to > make our products work as easily as possible for blind users. For = some, > OmniPage is enough but, for me, a lifelong computer user, I prefer = the > conveniences of OpenBook. > > Cdh > > Chris Hofstader > VP/Software Engineering > Freedom Scientific, Inc. > 11800 31st Ct. North > St. Petersburg, FL 33716 > 800-444-4443 x1061 > http://www.freedomscientific.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Alan Clendinen > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:15 AM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: re: JFW-friendly OCR > > > Jim, > > No, as I explained in my message, Text Cloner Pro uses JFW to provide > the > speech. Openbook and Kurzweil 1000 have their own speech engines, and = as > a > result of this "feature" they often screw up JFW. > > Alan > > Jim wrote: > Is Text Cloner Pro self-voicing? > > Jim > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject = line. > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject = line. > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject = line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject = line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.